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  • pbftxrs316
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    #61
    Originally posted by panicchaser
    Really?? You're a realist?

    Canelo would retire floyd the avoid mayflower!! To point out to the boxing world critically... Floyd is the problem with boxers nowadays. He's a survivor, not a fighter. He's pound for pound the most boring boxer to watch and this because he has taken the definition of the word 'defense' to a bruce lee level. The art of fighting without actually fighting!

    Teddy atlas said it best in an 'unplugged statement during the klitschko vs. Hayes fight.

    Ta said, "these guys are just not solid mentally anymore for the most part, a lot of these fighters. You go back to the 20's, 30's and 40's, those guys behaved like fighters. If there was an opportunity to get to a fighter, they had the fortitude to get to them. And not just physically and technically, but mentally and emotionally because they were invested in one thing, if there was an opportunity to do something, you do it. You don't draw a line. These guys draw a line and say, "i'll do enough to survive," or "i'll do enough to be competitive," or "i'll do enough to see what happens." but from a mental standpoint, back in the old days, in anything in our society and as far as a professional place of work, guys wanted to do what was there to do. They had the attitude and there was a hardness. There was a hunger to do whatever it is you were there to do.

    If you had a carpenter in the old days and the carpenter came to your house and something wasn't just right with those cabinets, you couldn't throw the damn guy out of your house. He would stay there. He didn't care about the money or getting two more days pay because he was going to be there two more days. He cared about his reputation. He cared that he was supposed to get that done at a certain level and a certain standard. You couldn't throw him out of there without him saying, "i'm coming back tomorrow and i'm going to smooth that out; i'm going to add that and i didn't figure on that, so i'm going to come here and build that up a little bit more." and he would do it because that's what he did because he was a freaking carpenter and he took pride in what he did. There was a demand to be everything that he is supposed to be. The same thing with a doctor. A doctor didn't say, "well, you don't have the coverage, i can't finish the job. I can't come and do a house call because i don't get paid extra for that." no, because they were committed to the job. They were committed to the profession; that they were supposed to behave at all times like a doctor and do what a doctor should do, and that's take care of that patient to whatever level it meant to go to. It was the same thing with the ball player; everything. It wasn't just about what they were getting paid. There was an urgency. It was a developed and committed urgency in everybody to be everything that you could be."

    on behalf of ta i would direct this statement to the likes of mayweather and any other boxer only fighting to survive.

    Simple. Canelo - fighter(go-getter). Mayflower - survivor! 'nuff said!!
    man--get a ***ing clue punk-lol---you look ****** as **** boy-

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    • panicchaser
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      #62
      Originally posted by pbftxrs316
      man--get a ***ing clue punk-lol---you look ****** as **** boy-
      no seriously... you need'a stop sniffin' Fraud Mayflowers jokkstrap homie... n chekk ur panties dogg... all that talk you tryin'a hype up 'bout Gayweather smell like some bull****!! You hangin' on his boxers like he gon' buy u a new house or somethin' man get outta here wit' that dumb ****!!

      You CLEARLY must have watched dat Cotto vs mayweather fight wit' ur eyes closed!! he ain't done nuttin' 'but do exactly what he does in EVERY fight... dukkin' n dodgin'. not because he's forced to, but because he's a survivor, not a fighter. but then tha's his name. 'Floyd the Avoid' gayweather. but this ain't fat tag homie... this is bOXING!! A grown man sport!! U get to an age where you stop runnin' n cowboy up! stop feedin' on scraps n guppies n start catchin' bigger fish. C rite now... CANELO is that bIG fish! but... as expected... Mayflower may be hungry, he just don't want none of THAT fish! It's too big so why risk it rite? better stikk to puddles n pond, guppie!!

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      • Phantomas
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        #63
        Originally posted by richardt
        He say's "Unfortunately a Mexican lost". No credit to Martinez who fought Brilliantly for most of the fight? I'm getting tired of the fighters and fans who only support their race, color, nationality, etc. It gets old fast. Really ***ed up when bias colors perception and emotion, rather than looking at the fighters skills, backstories, personalities.
        I don´t think p4p fighters earn any credit by beating a b level fighter (at most), specially when he got in really deep **** in the twelve. I mean, they usually earn hate from some people in forums?.


        Canelo as polite as always One of the reasons he is earning so many fans.
        Last edited by Phantomas; 09-18-2012, 03:09 AM.

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        • ddangerous
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          #64
          Originally posted by richardt
          He say's "Unfortunately a Mexican lost". No credit to Martinez who fought Brilliantly for most of the fight? I'm getting tired of the fighters and fans who only support their race, color, nationality, etc. It gets old fast. Really ***ed up when bias colors perception and emotion, rather than looking at the fighters skills, backstories, personalities.
          I honestly agree with this. The traditional race rivalries are understandable and make for a more colorful boxing atmosphere, but if it gets to the point where you can't praise another fighter unless he is the same race or creed as you, then it has become a sad day.

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          • ogalonzo
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            #65
            Honestly, I think he answered to "Jr.'s loss", no to "Martinez win". We have to understand that media expect Canelo to talk **** of Julio and vice versa, so they try to take advantage of results like this (Jr. vs Maravilla) to generate controversy and try to heat things up between fighters.

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            • djtmal
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              #66
              Originally posted by panicchaser
              no seriously... you need'a stop sniffin' Fraud Mayflowers jokkstrap homie... n chekk ur panties dogg... all that talk you tryin'a hype up 'bout Gayweather smell like some bull****!! You hangin' on his boxers like he gon' buy u a new house or somethin' man get outta here wit' that dumb ****!!

              You CLEARLY must have watched dat Cotto vs mayweather fight wit' ur eyes closed!! he ain't done nuttin' 'but do exactly what he does in EVERY fight... dukkin' n dodgin'. not because he's forced to, but because he's a survivor, not a fighter. but then tha's his name. 'Floyd the Avoid' gayweather. but this ain't fat tag homie... this is bOXING!! A grown man sport!! U get to an age where you stop runnin' n cowboy up! stop feedin' on scraps n guppies n start catchin' bigger fish. C rite now... CANELO is that bIG fish! but... as expected... Mayflower may be hungry, he just don't want none of THAT fish! It's too big so why risk it rite? better stikk to puddles n pond, guppie!!
              aka man up

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              • AHUEVO
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                #67
                Originally posted by panicchaser
                Really?? You're a realist?

                Canelo would retire Floyd the Avoid Mayflower!! To point out to the boxing world critically... Floyd is the problem with boxers nowadays. He's a survivor, not a fighter. He's pound for pound the most boring boxer to watch and this because he has taken the definition of the word 'defense' to a bruce lee level. The art of fighting without actually fighting!

                Teddy Atlas said it best in an 'Unplugged statement during the Klitschko vs. Hayes fight.

                TA said, "These guys are just not solid mentally anymore for the most part, a lot of these fighters. You go back to the 20's, 30's and 40's, those guys behaved like fighters. If there was an opportunity to get to a fighter, they had the fortitude to get to them. And not just physically and technically, but mentally and emotionally because they were invested in one thing, if there was an opportunity to do something, you do it. You don't draw a line. These guys draw a line and say, "I'll do enough to survive," or "I'll do enough to be competitive," or "I'll do enough to see what happens." But from a mental standpoint, back in the old days, in anything in our society and as far as a professional place of work, guys wanted to do what was there to do. They had the attitude and there was a hardness. There was a hunger to do whatever it is you were there to do.

                If you had a carpenter in the old days and the carpenter came to your house and something wasn't just right with those cabinets, you couldn't throw the damn guy out of your house. He would stay there. He didn't care about the money or getting two more days pay because he was going to be there two more days. He cared about his reputation. He cared that he was supposed to get that done at a certain level and a certain standard. You couldn't throw him out of there without him saying, "I'm coming back tomorrow and I'm going to smooth that out; I'm going to add that and I didn't figure on that, so I'm going to come here and build that up a little bit more." And he would do it because that's what he did because he was a freaking carpenter and he took pride in what he did. There was a demand to be everything that he is supposed to be. The same thing with a doctor. A doctor didn't say, "Well, you don't have the coverage, I can't finish the job. I can't come and do a house call because I don't get paid extra for that." No, because they were committed to the job. They were committed to the profession; that they were supposed to behave at all times like a doctor and do what a doctor should do, and that's take care of that patient to whatever level it meant to go to. It was the same thing with the ball player; everything. It wasn't just about what they were getting paid. There was an urgency. It was a developed and committed urgency in everybody to be everything that you could be."

                On behalf of TA i would direct this statement to the likes of mayweather and any other boxer only fighting to survive.

                Simple. Canelo - fighter(go-getter). mayflower - survivor! 'nuff said!!
                Please explain how Canelo will kill Jr.? The only way, as I stated in my post is if Canelo lands that beast-like hook. But how can he land the hook on a fighter that he won't see standing in front of him as many other fighters have done before?

                Mayweather is true boxer, this means he capitalizes on quickness and speed - hit and run. Canelo leaves himself susceptible to Mayweather's best punch - the straight. Again, I see Mayweather jabbing to keep Canelo away from him and landing straight rights all night long, cruising to 12 rounds and winning by UD in typical boring Mayweather fashion. Canelo is not ready for him, at lease not yet. He needs to develop better defense and a touch more speed. Give him 1 year and it will be on.

                MAYWEATHER JR. IS POUND FOR POUND THE MOST BORING FIGHTER.

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                • panicchaser
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by AHUEVO
                  Please explain how Canelo will kill Jr.? The only way, as I stated in my post is if Canelo lands that beast-like hook. But how can he land the hook on a fighter that he won't see standing in front of him as many other fighters have done before?

                  Mayweather is true boxer, this means he capitalizes on quickness and speed - hit and run. Canelo leaves himself susceptible to Mayweather's best punch - the straight. Again, I see Mayweather jabbing to keep Canelo away from him and landing straight rights all night long, cruising to 12 rounds and winning by UD in typical boring Mayweather fashion. Canelo is not ready for him, at lease not yet. He needs to develop better defense and a touch more speed. Give him 1 year and it will be on.

                  MAYWEATHER JR. IS POUND FOR POUND THE MOST BORING FIGHTER.
                  but that's what i mean. The integrity of a boxer is to fight. If you get in a ring and all you do is blokk all day everyday? my man, you are a 'blokker', not a fighter. Tell me what memorable 'boxer in their right mind ever said, 'when i grow up, i'm gonna be a blokker or trained all day everyday 24/7 for months punchin a bag only to get in the ring, run and blokk all 12 rounds?

                  Canelo's defense ain't ****! I'll give you that, but he won't need much work. If you remember the last fight just gone, he took lopez out on hits to the 'body'. i mean granted, Canelo may get the typical straight arm Mayweather jabs in a fight, but Canelo's body combinations usually finish with uppercuts or as you stated, 'that beast-like hook!'

                  1 more year is just givin' mayweather n critics a reasonable excuse if he loses to say he's no longer in his prime!

                  Yeah, Canelo could do wit' a bit more work on his defense, but other than that... i think he's ready!!

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                  • borikua
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by onechance87
                    Floyd paycheck?Canelo making serious bank already without floyd.
                    How much he's making right now? 5 Mills? More?

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