Sergio Martinez vs Floyd Mayweather or rematch?

[Zano-24]

You think Floyd beats Martinez, yet for some strange reason you have trailer loads of excuses as to why they shouldn't fight at 154?? Makes no sense. If you think he'll win, then why wouldn't you wanna see him enhance his legacy??

Then you entirely miss the point I was making in my post. You are the one saying that Floyd will duck him. My point being is how can he duck someone with the type of advantage that Martinez has? I do want to see this fight and I do believe Floyd would win it. Its just the people coming on here claiming that he "HAVE" to fight Martinez is the issue here. He doesn't have to fight someone as big as him but if he does then all the glory to him. I would love to see this fight but people who only one to see it because they want to see him lose because of a size advantage is insane and that it presents huge odds for him to lose. Then they will turn around and say he is ducking Martinez? But the same people(not you) will claim its okay for someone like Manny(example) not fighting Cotto at 154 while they make the statement that he is suppose to be better then Floyd but doesn't have to take the same risk even though they are both natural WW.

[Bushbaby]

In a nutshell. Floyd got himself in this position, he should've stayed at 147 and fought guys like Pac/Alexander/Berto/Bradley. What did he do? He went up in weight for the $$$. Canelo is comparable to Martinez in terms of weight, yet people wanna see Canelo/Mayweather, wtf is going on?

Pacman fans & Floyd fans are different sides of the same coin. Both fanbases throw out the same lame argument.

Example A: The Pacman fan-"Well Pacman beats Cotto even if they fight at 154. But he doesn't want to fight there because Margarito hurt him to the body so he said he'll never fight there again cause he doesn't want to get hurt.

Example A.2: The Floyd fan. Martinez is too big for Floyd, he's a full blown middleweight, why doesn't Martinez go to 168 & fight Ward, (the #1 fighter in the sport mind you). Forgetting to mention Martinez wants Floyd at 154, where Floyd is in fact now a 2 time world champion. But they still turn right around & say Floyd beats him anyway.

Well if they will win, why defend the duck??

[bojangles1987]

I still don't think it's really a duck, but if Floyd stays at 154 for his next fight, then it will definitely begin to look like one to me as well. Right now it's more a fight I wish would happen, but I understand why it has not.

[Bushbaby]

Then you entirely miss the point I was making in my post. You are the one saying that Floyd will duck him. My point being is how can he duck someone with the type of advantage that Martinez has? I do want to see this fight and I do believe Floyd would win it. Its just the people coming on here claiming that he "HAVE" to fight Martinez is the issue here. He doesn't have to fight someone as big as him but if he does then all the glory to him. I would love to see this fight but people who only one to see it because they want to see him lose because of a size advantage is insane and that it presents huge odds for him to lose. Then they will turn around and say he is ducking Martinez? But the same people(not you) will claim its okay for someone like Manny(example) not fighting Cotto at 154 while they make the statement that he is suppose to be better then Floyd but doesn't have to take the same risk even though they are both natural WW.

If Floyd fights at 154 again, with anyone not named Martinez, it's a duck. If he fights ginger at 154, he ducked Martinez. Both are lucrative fights. Martinez has officially headlined a ppv & put forth 1 of the most dramatic fights of recent ppv history. He has repeatedly called Floyd out at (154). Floyd won't be climbing weight. He's a 2 time champ there. Meanwhile ginger has ducked his division for well over 2 years, minus Rhodes. He does not deserve to share the same ring as Floyd.

I don't care about them other posters cause Pacman is a ducking cherrypicker just like Floyd.

[kiaba360]

I still don't think it's really a duck, but if Floyd stays at 154 for his next fight, then it will definitely begin to look like one to me as well. Right now it's more a fight I wish would happen, but I understand why it has not.

Martinez is really gonna have to force the issue if he's still interested in fighting Mayweather. Dibella has already gone after DLH/Canelo, so that's step one. Martinez needs to let it be known that he wants Canelo and when he wins, he wants Floyd. You gotta back Mayweather into a corner where he has absolutely no choice but to accept. We know that Martinez will accept the OST, so it's not like Floyd can use that trick.

I really hope that his injuries are not hazardous to his career, that would really suck the wind out of this victory.

[Zano-24]

If Floyd fights at 154 again, with anyone not named Martinez, it's a duck. If he fights ginger at 154, he ducked Martinez. Both are lucrative fights. Martinez has officially headlined a ppv & put forth 1 of the most dramatic fights of recent ppv history. He has repeatedly called Floyd out at (154). Floyd won't be climbing weight. He's a 2 time champ there. Meanwhile ginger has ducked his division for well over 2 years, minus Rhodes. He does not deserve to share the same ring as Floyd.

I don't care about them other posters cause Pacman is a ducking cherrypicker just like Floyd.

I agree with you to an extent but how can you call someone a ducker if he doesn't choose to fight all the top fighters at that weight class(this is basically the point here)? So because Floyd beat Cotto and DLH at 154 justifies that he has to fight every top fighter at that weight class(the ones who calls him out) or even people that can push them selves down to 154? I agree a lot on what your saying but you can't say someone is ducking someone with that type of an advantage. What I am saying is that even though he fights a fighter at 154 it doesn't mean that he has to fight every single top guy that calls him out who can push them selves down or who are already there. He takes his risk at 154 but you can't ever fault him for turning down a fighter there because its a weight he shouldn't be at in the first place. If he does indeed fight Martinez at 154 then he has some serious balls but even so I believe he has the skills to beat Martinez.

[Bushbaby]

I agree with you to an extent but how can you call someone a ducker if he doesn't choose to fight all the top fighters at that weight class(this is basically the point here)? So because Floyd beat Cotto and DLH at 154 justifies that he has to fight every top fighter at that weight class(the ones who calls him out) or even people that can push them selves down to 154? I agree a lot on what your saying but you can't say someone is ducking someone with that type of an advantage. What I am saying is that even though he fights a fighter at 154 it doesn't mean that he has to fight every single top guy that calls him out who can push them selves down or who are already there. He takes his risk at 154 but you can't ever fault him for turning down a fighter there because its a weight he shouldn't be at in the first place. If he does indeed fight Martinez at 154 then he has some serious balls but even so I believe he has the skills to beat Martinez.

Back to square 1. I believe Floyd can beat Martinez. But he shouldn't have to fight him, all the while claiming he's the best, but he won't fight the best. Good job.

[sicko]

Mayweather vs Martinez not happening...especially not at 160 and if Sergio was to come down to 150-154 then to me I don't see Martinez being at his best coming down especially with his style, he can't afford to be drained

So I don't see that fight happening...so Sergio will have no choice but to fight in a rematch against Chavez which will still result into a Nice Pay Day and after that fight with Chavez Jr, Martinez should be able to draw on his own now I would think...then after that who knows what will happen late 2013...but the pressure for Mayweather to "FIGHT MARTINEZ" is coming from his HATERS and people who just DESPERATELY wants to see him lose and they don't care about being FAIR or being REALISTIC...and if Mayweather was to go to 160 and beat Martinez then they will be screaming "HE SHOULD FIGHT WARD...HE OPENED UP THAT CAN BY MOVING UP TO 160"

I think Canelo vs Mayweather Cinco De Mayo will be Mayweather next fight IF Mayweather even ever decides to fight again coming out of Jail...Pacquiao fight is still POSSIBLE, but despite 50 Cent working with Pacquiao, Arum has recently made it clear that Top Rank is still the Promoter of Pacquiao and 50 Cent will have NOTHING to do with Pacquiao career, only MP Promotions

But then a lot of you are really full of **** because did many of you just bashed Canelo for fighting a Light Welterweight who only recently just fought at Welterweight? But now your turn around and want a Middleweight to fight a Welterweight? That is Martinez basically doing the same ***in thing as Canelo...so what Josesito opened up that Can when he took one fight at 147 for Ortiz? COME ON YOU ***IN HYPOCRITES!

[kiaba360]

Mayweather vs Martinez not happening...especially not at 160 and if Sergio was to come down to 150-154 then to me I don't see Martinez being at his best coming down especially with his style, he can't afford to be drained

So I don't see that fight happening...so Sergio will have no choice but to fight in a rematch against Chavez which will still result into a Nice Pay Day and after that fight with Chavez Jr, Martinez should be able to draw on his own now I would think...then after that who knows what will happen late 2013...but the pressure for Mayweather to "FIGHT MARTINEZ" is coming from his HATERS and people who just DESPERATELY wants to see him lose and they don't care about being FAIR or being REALISTIC...and if Mayweather was to go to 160 and beat Martinez then they will be screaming "HE SHOULD FIGHT WARD...HE OPENED UP THAT CAN BY MOVING UP TO 160"

I think Canelo vs Mayweather Cinco De Mayo will be Mayweather next fight IF Mayweather even ever decides to fight again coming out of Jail...Pacquiao fight is still POSSIBLE, but despite 50 Cent working with Pacquiao, Arum has recently made it clear that Top Rank is still the Promoter of Pacquiao and 50 Cent will have NOTHING to do with Pacquiao career, only MP Promotions

But then a lot of you are really full of **** because did many of you just bashed Canelo for fighting a Light Welterweight who only recently just fought at Welterweight? But now your turn around and want a Middleweight to fight a Welterweight? That is Martinez basically doing the same ***in thing as Canelo...so what Josesito opened up that Can when he took one fight at 147 for Ortiz? COME ON YOU ***IN HYPOCRITES!

Mayweather has a burden on his back, put on him by the fans. On average, my expectations for him are greater than for other fighters because he is THAT good. Josesito only had one fight at 147, while Floyd has campaigned there for years and decides to move up to 154 when the right opportunities presents themselves. Does Floyd need to fight Sergio? No, but if he stay at LMW and fights Canelo, then he's leaving himself open for judgement.

Answer me this: If Sergio goes down to 154 and beats Canelo, would you object to a Mayweather/Martinez fight? and explain why.

[bojangles1987]

Mayweather vs Martinez not happening...especially not at 160 and if Sergio was to come down to 150-154 then to me I don't see Martinez being at his best coming down especially with his style, he can't afford to be drained

So I don't see that fight happening...so Sergio will have no choice but to fight in a rematch against Chavez which will still result into a Nice Pay Day and after that fight with Chavez Jr, Martinez should be able to draw on his own now I would think...then after that who knows what will happen late 2013...but the pressure for Mayweather to "FIGHT MARTINEZ" is coming from his HATERS and people who just DESPERATELY wants to see him lose and they don't care about being FAIR or being REALISTIC...and if Mayweather was to go to 160 and beat Martinez then they will be screaming "HE SHOULD FIGHT WARD...HE OPENED UP THAT CAN BY MOVING UP TO 160"

I think Canelo vs Mayweather Cinco De Mayo will be Mayweather next fight IF Mayweather even ever decides to fight again coming out of Jail...Pacquiao fight is still POSSIBLE, but despite 50 Cent working with Pacquiao, Arum has recently made it clear that Top Rank is still the Promoter of Pacquiao and 50 Cent will have NOTHING to do with Pacquiao career, only MP Promotions

But then a lot of you are really full of **** because did many of you just bashed Canelo for fighting a Light Welterweight who only recently just fought at Welterweight? But now your turn around and want a Middleweight to fight a Welterweight? That is Martinez basically doing the same ***in thing as Canelo...so what Josesito opened up that Can when he took one fight at 147 for Ortiz? COME ON YOU ***IN HYPOCRITES!

It's not remotely the same thing. We want Mayweather to fight someone coming down in weight. Alvarez drags fighters a division or two up to where he is. That is not the same thing in any way whatsoever.