Rank these Super Middleweight resumes.

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  • techliam
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    #71
    Originally posted by jermainerambo
    Joe calzaghe has athletes gifts beyond compare, how could Roy and Hopkins possibly compete with him
    You aren't serious right? How can you compare Calzaghes athleticism and Roy's athleticism lol. Sure Joe beat Roy, but Roy was way past prime with losses to people he would have dominated during his prime. Roy never had a good chin in my opinion, his athleticism allowed him to be effectively undefeated in 49 fights at 154, 160, 175 and 200+. Roy will go down as a legend of the ring, Calzaghe hasn't really gone down as anything but an undefeated fighter with a controversial decision over Hopkins. That's saying something since Roy has 8 losses or so now, and Calzaghe has 0. His undefeated record means nothing.

    As for the Ward "debate", Ward has cleaned out a division in 26 fights, with a serious chance of cleaning out 175 in the very near future. In 26 fights, Joe did ****. When Ward's career is over, Calzaghe will have nothing on him. You're effectively comparing someones full career to someone who's nowhere near finished. And even then, most people would say Ward's career now is equal or greater than Calzaghes career, in only 26 fights.

    The point you're missing is, Ward has a serious chance of being an ATG. Roy and Hopkins will go down as Legends. Calzaghe failed to achieve both, and its something youll have to deal with.

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    • The Hammer
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      #72
      1. Calzaghe
      2. Ward
      3. Froch

      Calzaghe beat peak Kessler without using headbutts and other fouls. Eubank, Lacy, prime Mitchell, Brewer, and Bika among others were good wins. Joe cleaned out the super-middleweight division.

      Froch lost to Ward and Kessler.

      Dawson was weight-drained so not too much credit should be given for that Ward win.

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      • jermainerambo
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        #73
        Originally posted by techliam
        You aren't serious right? How can you compare Calzaghes athleticism and Roy's athleticism lol. Sure Joe beat Roy, but Roy was way past prime with losses to people he would have dominated during his prime. Roy never had a good chin in my opinion, his athleticism allowed him to be effectively undefeated in 49 fights at 154, 160, 175 and 200+. Roy will go down as a legend of the ring, Calzaghe hasn't really gone down as anything but an undefeated fighter with a controversial decision over Hopkins. That's saying something since Roy has 8 losses or so now, and Calzaghe has 0. His undefeated record means nothing.

        As for the Ward "debate", Ward has cleaned out a division in 26 fights, with a serious chance of cleaning out 175 in the very near future. In 26 fights, Joe did ****. When Ward's career is over, Calzaghe will have nothing on him. You're effectively comparing someones full career to someone who's nowhere near finished. And even then, most people would say Ward's career now is equal or greater than Calzaghes career, in only 26 fights.

        The point you're missing is, Ward has a serious chance of being an ATG. Roy and Hopkins will go down as Legends. Calzaghe failed to achieve both, and its something youll have to deal with.

        joe calzaghe's up there with the best of the best Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano


        Joe calzaghe is way more athletic than roy jones

        Faster in hand and foot speed

        Better stamina

        Bigger and Physically strong

        Agility (like watching a lightweight in a super middleweight's body)

        Throws more punch

        Can adapt any circumstances

        Joe calzaghe has athletes gifts beyond compare

        Roy jones was never the same after the joe calzaghe experience
        Last edited by jermainerambo; 09-11-2012, 11:29 AM.

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        • daggum
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          #74
          Originally posted by Freedom.
          1. Calzaghe
          2. Ward
          3. Froch

          Calzaghe beat peak Kessler without using headbutts and other fouls. Eubank, Lacy, prime Mitchell, Brewer, and Bika among others were good wins. Joe cleaned out the super-middleweight division.

          Froch lost to Ward and Kessler.

          Dawson was weight-drained so not too much credit should be given for that Ward win.
          calzaghe throws almost all his punches with the inside of the glove which as clearly stated in the rules is illegal and is a foul.

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          • Grimgash
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            #75
            Originally posted by jermainerambo
            Joe calzaghe has athletes gifts beyond compare, how could Roy and Hopkins possibly compete with him

            who are the so called prime top fighters andre ward beat?.......

            carl froch was 35 when ward fought him

            froch got his 0 and his belt took by kessler


            The biggest name ward fought was a aging mikkel kessler

            The hardest fight ward had was a aging sakio bika it was "a life-and-death struggle".

            After the fight ward's mum said that bika made her baby's face all red
            Lol really? RJJ in his prime was one of the most physically gifted athletes there was. It's why as he got older he faded so much because almost his entire style was based off his natural gifts... Most of your posts have been blatant bias but ... that just sealed it for me.

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