What's the difference

[vacon04]

Adamek hurt him pretty bad too. Same way. Caught him off the ball, bam. The knock on Dawson for a while was what about his chin. he made it go away by not getting tagged as often for a while.

Adamek hits way harder than Ward... Adamek has a big frame, he started as a small CW, moved to LWH and then to CW again ... We're talking about a guy who's naturally 15 pounds heavier than Ward.

[HeroBando]

To be like Pacs deal , Ward would had to have challenged Dawson for his LH title and then force Dawson to be under the 175 limit , Dawson did all the challenging and it was his idea to fight at 168 for Wards title .

Did the weight effect Chad , off course it did , is it Wards fault no how can it be , just like Pac vs Oscar , Oscar was weight drained to fck but it was his own fault , Cotto was a different deal and Pac weight drained him on purpose because he still refuses to fight him without a CW even though he wants to fight Cotto he wont becuse of weight .

Like Ive said all along you guys only see the numbers your understanding of the numbers is off with the faeries and fanboys .

what? DLH had no title, his previous fight was at 150.

[crold1]

what? DLH had no title, his previous fight was at 150.

Of course Oscar had a title, the most important one, the one that was more important than any other title in boxing:

The dude EVERYONE within range wants to fight to get paid and get more exposure than in their whole life. He tripled Pacquiao's PPV audience in a NIGHT. Pac went from boxing star to Megastar in a NIGHT. He went from great money to ****** money in a NIGHT.

And Oscar was solely in the driver's seat making that one. He came down to quiet criticism of the fight.

[crold1]

Adamek hits way harder than Ward... Adamek has a big frame, he started as a small CW, moved to LWH and then to CW again ... We're talking about a guy who's naturally 15 pounds heavier than Ward.

I agree, but it doesn't mean a lesser puncher can't hurt a guy whose chin isn't steel if he catches him right. And hurt him bad. Dawson has always been susceptible to blind shots, and it's the ones you don't see.

[boliodogs]

In Ward's win over Dawson and Pacquiao's catch weight fights?
Both fighter's wanted to go down in weight and Pacquiao has been labeled as a drainer.
I'm confused, because some of the same people who're saying weight had nothing to do with Ward's victory are the same ones who say Pacquiao only won certain fights because he drained people.
It was only like a week or two ago the boards were filled with Pacquiao and his draining tactics.

I think it's because they like Ward and they don't like Pacquiao. I think the Ward-Dawson fight goes about the same way at 175 but I also think Pacquiao-Cotto goes the same way at 147 and Pacquiao-Margarito goes the same way at 154. These are pros that know their own body. They are not going to agree to fight at a weight they will be weak at in my opinion. They might make a mistake on going to light but they rarely do. You seldom here the fighters themselves saying they lost because they were to light.

[Vasyl’s dad]

what? DLH had no title, his previous fight was at 150.

Reloaded is known for making up lies.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

In all honesty, Dawson was winning the first two rounds. He looked good. His right hook over Ward's jab was being timed perfectly and I thought he was catching Ward.

It wasn't until Ward landed that straight left on Dawson's jaw and dropped him that Dawson's output started going down. Initially, I thought it was rather strange that Ward was able to drop Dawson until I saw the replay. The punch was picture perfect flush on the jaw.

Dawson was reluctant to throw after that and things went downhill.

@TS, regarding Pac, if I remember correctly, there were more rumors about him being on PED's than there were DLH being weight drained. Unless "the people" you're talking about is Freddie Roach and Co. If I'm not mistaken, it's Roach that's actually saying DLH was weight drained. He said he knew they had DLH because he could still see the bandades from the IV's in his arm.

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[hectari]

This wasn't a catchweight Dawson moved down a full division and suffered way worse than Cotto and Margarito did at catchweights.

What does a catchweight have to do with being drained? you can be drained going down a weight class too. I swear some people are brainwashed in here. did you know catchweights are done to make the fight in a MIDDLE ground and to make it EVEN or fair?

Pacquiao never drained anyone, both sides negotiated a weight, Pac giving a catchweight is fair, Ward didn't want to give Dawson a catchweight of 170 a few more pounds according to Dawson.

[hectari]

I would respect these fl0mos more if they just said it straight up, that they hated Pacquiaos guts and will discredit him no matter what.

[hectari]

I never thought Cotto was drained at all, I hate when people give that excuse. Pac beat a past prime-still good Cotto down.

De La Hoya was crap because Oscar was clearly done, but you can't knock Pac for it because that was the mega star fight. The Margarito CW for a title at 154 was a joke though, especially since Margarito hadn't won a good fight in over 2 years.

Then what did Floyd beat? A bloated corpse?