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  • Russian Crushin
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    #11
    Originally posted by Sweet Pea 50
    There was already a thread made covering this.
    And im actually posting in them.....boredom

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    • Hougigo
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      #12
      Originally posted by Sweet Pea 50
      There was already a thread made covering this.
      My B.... probably got moved to the main thread... where I probably should have posted this.
      That's on me

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      • -PBP-
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        #13
        Easy. Ward was the champion and his belts were on the line. If you want to take a man's belt, fight him at his weight.

        Cotto was the champion. Should have fought him at 147.

        The Margarito fight was for a belt at 154. Fight should have taken place at 154.

        De La Hoya/Pac was not a championship fight.

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        • Vasyl’s dad
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          #14
          Originally posted by Russian Crushin
          Dawson moves down 7 pounds = NOT DRAINED

          Cotto moves down 1 pound = DRAINED ZOMBIE
          Ward has no chance to fight Floyd.
          Manny does.

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          • 4Corners
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            #15
            Originally posted by hougigo
            It was like a week ago, after Cotto turned down Pacquiao, that everybody was making Cotto was drained threads.
            I was speaking for myself. I could careless if Pac-Cotto II was at 154, 150, or 147. Obviously if it was at 154, it'd be a more legit fight. That fight was crap because it would have been a pointless rematch, just like the Barrera rematch.

            Ward-Dawson was a good win for Ward, a big win, and a great performance. It would have been greater had he gone up in weight though. That's a fact.

            I was speaing more for myself, I don't think Cotto was drained at all. I don't think Dawson was totally drained, and we should take into account that he was like 186 lbs on fight night, but it may have had something to do with his punch resistance. But as far as speed and everything, he looked the same. Still, I wanted Ward to go up in weight.

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            • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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              #16
              I saw this being brought up a few days ago. Someone got into it with Bushbaby. He supports Ward but somehow bashes Pacquiao for draining his opponents. And it's not just Bushbaby, there's PLENTY of people around here who do the same. It's mostly Floyd fans who are also fans of Ward.

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              • El Angel
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                #17
                Never hated on Manny for it, not gonna hate on Ward. They are two of the best in the world, weight doesn't change the outcome of last night's, maybe Ward doesn't stop him at LHW.

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                  Brawski
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by PBP
                  Easy. Ward was the champion and his belts were on the line. If you want to take a man's belt, fight him at his weight.

                  Cotto was the champion. Should have fought him at 147.

                  The Margarito fight was for a belt at 154. Fight should have taken place at 154.

                  De La Hoya/Pac was not a championship fight.
                  This is about draining not belts. Belts or not the MAIN point stands.

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                  • lparm
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by PBP
                    Easy. Ward was the champion and his belts were on the line. If you want to take a man's belt, fight him at his weight.

                    Cotto was the champion. Should have fought him at 147.

                    The Margarito fight was for a belt at 154. Fight should have taken place at 154.

                    De La Hoya/Pac was not a championship fight.
                    Jesus Christ!

                    Are people that ****** that they don't understand the weight limit does not mean all fights 100% must be fought at that weight in that weight class.

                    Here's a quick breakdown:

                    Welterweight = 140+ lbs until exactly 147 lbs
                    Super welter/lt middle = 147+lbs until exactly 154 lbs

                    What does that mean?

                    If you're between 140 and 147 you're a welterweight regardless if you weight 141 or 147. Same goes for all weight except heavyweight which is 200+lbs and up.

                    Schooling the new kids.

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                    • Hougigo
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by 4Corners
                      I was speaking for myself. I could careless if Pac-Cotto II was at 154, 150, or 147. Obviously if it was at 154, it'd be a more legit fight. That fight was crap because it would have been a pointless rematch, just like the Barrera rematch.

                      Ward-Dawson was a good win for Ward, a big win, and a great performance. It would have been greater had he gone up in weight though. That's a fact.

                      I was speaing more for myself, I don't think Cotto was drained at all. I don't think Dawson was totally drained, and we should take into account that he was like 186 lbs on fight night, but it may have had something to do with his punch resistance. But as far as speed and everything, he looked the same. Still, I wanted Ward to go up in weight.
                      My bad, I didn't mean to quote you on that.
                      I was going to reply to you, but then just wrote something in general about what was happening a week or two ago.
                      Not trying to single you out or anything, I get what you're saying though

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