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  • mexicanfan510
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    #161
    Nah idk, can't vouch for him being a bull****ter, but as an avid wrestler in high school I can genuinely state 8 lbs in one day is possible, hell I did 8 lbs in 2 hours, no lie

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    • hitking
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      #162
      Originally posted by Realizniguhnit
      Ray Robinson is from a different time and era, has nothing to do with they way boxing is today in 2012-2013. now there basically a weight class every 5 to 7 pounds. means everthing!
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      So basically, your criteria for greatness of weight jumping. I hate to be the bearer of bad news. But with as many divisions and titles there are out there, a guy with the right backing could weight jump, win titles in 5-6 divisions, and do so having never fought a legitimate top 10 fighter in that division. And that would impress you more than a guy sticking around and cleaning out a loaded division. Is that about right?

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      • hitking
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        #163
        Originally posted by Realizniguhnit
        Because that's what it takes to be p4p in 2012. Middleweights are Middleweights. Direll was in the super 6 just like Ward was..
        So in order to be P4P, Ward needs to move down and fight middleweights.

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        • Realizniguhnit
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          #164
          Originally posted by hitking
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          So basically, your criteria for greatness of weight jumping. I hate to be the bearer of bad news. But with as many divisions and titles there are out there, a guy with the right backing could weight jump, win titles in 5-6 divisions, and do so having never fought a legitimate top 10 fighter in that division. And that would impress you more than a guy sticking around and cleaning out a loaded division. Is that about right?
          Do you have the mental capacity of a 10 yo or what. Nobody is giving credit for beating nobodies for paper titles like Guerrero did, Pacquiao fought legit champs and won legit titles. he is p4p #2. Sergio is #3 and by the way Ward didn't CLEAN OUT anything.. Like I said earlier. If Ward jumps to 175 now and loses is he still p4p then? Absolutely NOT! You have to challege yourself to be p4p Ward has yet to do that. Floyd has, Pacquiao has, Sergio has, Marquez has, Roy Jones has..ect

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          • TerrisJ3
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            #165
            Originally posted by daggum
            he won a belt, fought nobody for ten years, then fought a couple good fighters, and moved up. 15 years? that's like saying zsolt erdei or senchenko dominated for years.
            so uhm who exactly was he avoiding in the smw division?

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            • Realizniguhnit
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              #166
              Originally posted by hitking
              So in order to be P4P, Ward needs to move down and fight middleweights.
              Or up to LHW... He must dominate in atleast 2 weight classes in order to be p4p.. WHY? because HE CAN! They have been calling for Ward to move up for a while now. Including tonight, there's never been much elite talent at 168

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              • SN!PER
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                #167
                Okay, so people are saying Ward drained Dawson.

                So I guess the winner of Martinez vs. Chavez Jr. should call out Ward to 160 lbs.

                Then when Ward beats him, is Ward considered "drained" or is he now picking on smaller fighters?

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                • ROYistheGOAT
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                  #168
                  I doubt 168 was a problem for chad if he ballooned to 185 by fight night

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                  • hitking
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by Realizniguhnit
                    Do you have the mental capacity of a 10 yo or what. Nobody is giving credit for beating nobodies for paper titles like Guerrero did, Pacquiao fought legit champs and won legit titles. he is p4p #2. Sergio is #3 and by the way Ward didn't CLEAN OUT anything.. Like I said earlier. If Ward jumps to 175 now and loses is he still p4p then? Absolutely NOT! You have to challege yourself to be p4p Ward has yet to do that. Floyd has, Pacquiao has, Sergio has, Marquez has, Roy Jones has..ect
                    You're the one with the metal capability of a box of rocks. That's why you don't realize how ****** your logic is. Jumping up and down in weight is nice, but not a requirement for P4P. History is litered with great fighters that didn't do a lot of jumping in weight. But I can see this is going nowhere. So I'm a bow out. You can't fix ******. And you my friend are ******. So no need to continue the merry go round.

                    BTW, what top super middleweight outside of Dirrell, who would have gotten a shot at Ward had he not claimed he had brain damage from basically quitting against AA when he realized he probably wasn't gonna see the final bell.

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                    • Realizniguhnit
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by hitking
                      You're the one with the metal capability of a box of rocks. That's why you don't realize how ****** your logic is. Jumping up and down in weight is nice, but not a requirement for P4P. History is litered with great fighters that didn't do a lot of jumping in weight. But I can see this is going nowhere. So I'm a bow out. You can't fix ******. And you my friend are ******. So no need to continue the merry go round.

                      BTW, what top super middleweight outside of Dirrell, who would have gotten a shot at Ward had he not claimed he had brain damage from basically quitting against AA when he realized he probably wasn't gonna see the final bell.
                      If my logic is so ****** then please tell me why didn't one commentator for HBO say anything about Ward being top p4p tonight? NOT 1! Instead, they were talking about how he should move up to 175. Why? Because they know they real definition of what p4p is.. Something you don't seem to have a great understanding of.. You need to BOW out I think it's past your bedtime..
                      Last edited by Realizniguhnit; 09-09-2012, 01:08 AM.

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