Bernard Hopkins rate him

[Mr. Ryan]

hopkins is a 9 i dont think any current boxer could beat him

Which says more about todays boxers than Hopkins.

[Sir_Jose]

Hopkins is an average fighter. I never said he ducked a rematch with Toney, I said he wanted nothing to do with Toney when Toney was at 168. Hopkins would've been a heavy favorite over all those fighters? Coulda Shoulda Woulda I guess. I'm not going to give this guy credit for beating cops and cab drivers. Ray Robinson, Marvin Hagler, and Carlos Monzon would murder him. You know, Felix Sturm was impressive against Cherifi, but I'm not going to say Sturm is a p4p fighter. I'm just not going to say he's a great middleweight until he fights another great middleweight. Alot of people said Shane Mosley was the p4p best, that was until he got some opposition from Forrest, and we all saw what happened. Until Hopkins proves himself, I don't think highly of him.

Are you ****ing high?

Hopkins is an "average fighter". Just stop watching boxing right now.

Your time line is so ****ed up its not even funny.

He didn't want to fight Toney when he was at 168?

Hopkins won his tilte in 1995 the same year James Toney moved up to 175.

You wont consider him great until he fights another great middleweight huh. Want to tell me who were the great middleweights Marvin Hagler fought? Thats right he fought some tough guys but no one great who was a natural 160lber Hagler's two biggest fights on his career came against Leonard and Hearns. Are you also gonna dog Hagler for not fighting Spinks? cause that fight was there to be made?

Hopkins has fought some good guys, but you just a shameless hater. Tito Trinidad, DLH, Echols2x, Holmes, Joppy, Allen and Glen Johnson who is now the Undisputed Light Heavyweight Champion of the World.

just stop it makes you sound foolish

[BrooklynBomber]

Did Hopkins fight Toney? I am just curious.

[Sir_Jose]

Did Hopkins fight Toney? I am just curious.

No

Bernard Hopkins win his IBF Middleweight title in 1995 that same year James Toney started fighting at Lightheavyweight.

[BrooklynBomber]

Then what the **** is all fuss about him not giving Toney a rematch? Plain ******. IMHo we are looking at one of the all-time great middleweights in line with Hagler, SRR, LaMotta etc...He might be one of the smartest fighters I've ever saw.

[straightjab65]

Hopkins is a 9 in my opinion..

I give Hopkins a nine. He's only lost two matches his whole career and held his title for 10 years. His loss to roy jones came early in his career. Roy was a seasoned amatuer and Hopkins was a student of the pro game. since that loss Hopkins has used his great defense and patience to dominate the competition. He is the only person to ever defeat trinidad, and he also handed defeats to robert allen, william joppy, glen johnson and oscar delahoya. Talk all the **** you want about trinidad being a welterwelt but there is no other middleweight around that can beat trinidad.

[INFAMOUZ]

Ill Give Him 8

[jswa17]

I give him 7.5
I will give him 8 if he beats Tito again,
I will give him 9 if he moves up and beats Tarver/Jones/Johnson.

[Sir_Jose]

I give him 7.5
I will give him 8 if he beats Tito again,
I will give him 9 if he moves up and beats Tarver/Jones/Johnson.

You do know he's already KO'ed Glen Johnson right?

[Solo322]

8...good boxing skills, but boring as hell...Can't sell a PPV unless the opponent is a superstar...much like Winky...

let see what happens if he fight Tito again...

I like what you said cause I was just about to say the same thing. I'd rather watch Roy jones cause he's exciting, even though i know that hopkins is freaking awesome, i give him a 9