Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
Bernard Hopkins rate him
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Im sorry but your wrong. This is boxing you dont rule your division for a decade, make 20 title defense and unify all 4 major belts by being "Lucky"
He's as technically as sound as any fighter I have ever seen. He has a great chin, He can fight for foward, going backwards, He can box from the outside just as good as he can fight on the inside.
You want to get dirty he's more than comfortable doing that.
You have to rank him top 5 all time at 160 one of the greatest divisions in the history of the sport.
He may not have fought in the greatest era, but he did fight some good guys. I think its funny people still harp on Felix Trinidad being a Welterweight. Trinidad has had 4 fights at 160 and has looked AMAZING in 3 of them. I'll tell you who doesn't think Tito is small and thats William Joppy and Hassine Cheriffi two legit top 5 guys at 160 when those fights happen.
The second fight with Roy Jones came along because the contract was a joke. It was not just 60/40. It was that Roy wanted everything to come out of Hopkins end aswell. It also had to do with the rematch clause Roy Jones wanted. It stated that if Bernard Hopkins had won the second fight he would recieve no more than 40% for the 3rd fight. Now thats a flat out joke.
He never ducked a rematch with James Toney becuase he never fought him to begin with. Now im sorry, but if you really believe James Toney was going to come down from 190 for that fight you really need to stop buying into internet hype.
Bernard Hopkins would be a heavy favorite over all the guys you listed. No one in the history of boxing "Destroys" Bernard Hopkins he's too good.
Hate him or not Hopkins has all the tools inside the ring.Comment
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Good post. I would give him 9. dont think that he can beat SRR but he has 50-50 chances against Hagler imo. And no way any middleweight in history will destroy him.Originally posted by jose10
Im sorry but your wrong. This is boxing you dont rule your division for a decade, make 20 title defense and unify all 4 major belts by being "Lucky"
He's as technically as sound as any fighter I have ever seen. He has a great chin, He can fight for foward, going backwards, He can box from the outside just as good as he can fight on the inside.
You want to get dirty he's more than comfortable doing that.
You have to rank him top 5 all time at 160 one of the greatest divisions in the history of the sport.
He may not have fought in the greatest era, but he did fight some good guys. I think its funny people still harp on Felix Trinidad being a Welterweight. Trinidad has had 4 fights at 160 and has looked AMAZING in 3 of them. I'll tell you who doesn't think Tito is small and thats William Joppy and Hassine Cheriffi two legit top 5 guys at 160 when those fights happen.
The second fight with Roy Jones came along because the contract was a joke. It was not just 60/40. It was that Roy wanted everything to come out of Hopkins end aswell. It also had to do with the rematch clause Roy Jones wanted. It stated that if Bernard Hopkins had won the second fight he would recieve no more than 40% for the 3rd fight. Now thats a flat out joke.
He never ducked a rematch with James Toney becuase he never fought him to begin with. Now im sorry, but if you really believe James Toney was going to come down from 190 for that fight you really need to stop buying into internet hype.
Bernard Hopkins would be a heavy favorite over all the guys you listed. No one in the history of boxing "Destroys" Bernard Hopkins he's too good.
Hate him or not Hopkins has all the tools inside the ring.Comment
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That post is Karma-worthy..Originally posted by jose10
Im sorry but your wrong. This is boxing you dont rule your division for a decade, make 20 title defense and unify all 4 major belts by being "Lucky"
He's as technically as sound as any fighter I have ever seen. He has a great chin, He can fight for foward, going backwards, He can box from the outside just as good as he can fight on the inside.
You want to get dirty he's more than comfortable doing that.
You have to rank him top 5 all time at 160 one of the greatest divisions in the history of the sport.
He may not have fought in the greatest era, but he did fight some good guys. I think its funny people still harp on Felix Trinidad being a Welterweight. Trinidad has had 4 fights at 160 and has looked AMAZING in 3 of them. I'll tell you who doesn't think Tito is small and thats William Joppy and Hassine Cheriffi two legit top 5 guys at 160 when those fights happen.
The second fight with Roy Jones came along because the contract was a joke. It was not just 60/40. It was that Roy wanted everything to come out of Hopkins end aswell. It also had to do with the rematch clause Roy Jones wanted. It stated that if Bernard Hopkins had won the second fight he would recieve no more than 40% for the 3rd fight. Now thats a flat out joke.
He never ducked a rematch with James Toney becuase he never fought him to begin with. Now im sorry, but if you really believe James Toney was going to come down from 190 for that fight you really need to stop buying into internet hype.
Bernard Hopkins would be a heavy favorite over all the guys you listed. No one in the history of boxing "Destroys" Bernard Hopkins he's too good.
Hate him or not Hopkins has all the tools inside the ring.Comment
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I give him a 8, he did brake a record, but he has never proven himself to be rated any higher, 9-10 is reserved for Roy Jones Jr type fighters who push themselfs to the limit.Comment
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Everybody wants to hate on Bernard Hopkins but he is the best out there. He is also a damn good fighter who can do just about anything in the ring. I have made it known in the past that Tito is my favorite fighter but I don't see how anybody can discredit Bernard's win over Tito by saying he was a natural welterweight moving up. Tito was never a natural welterweight and anybody who has followed his career knows Tito always struggled to make the welterweight limit. That doesn't sound like a natural welterweight to me.Comment
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Huh?Originally posted by IwatchBoxingI give him a 8, he did brake a record, but he has never proven himself to be rated any higher, 9-10 is reserved for Roy Jones Jr type fighters who push themselfs to the limit.
Do you mean RJJ pushed himslef to the limit by fighting Tarver or GJ?Comment
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