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cool, he looks strong. i think he is physically stronger than moreno. for mares to win this fight, he will need to impose this on moreno. controlled pressure will be the key, not wild pressure (getting inside with his jab vs. just flying in with wild hooks), but consistent pressure while continuing to box and rough him up on the inside.
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Can't wait for this fight.
The winner of this is a Top 10 P4P'er. IMO.Comment
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Considering how many already rank Donaire in the top 5 p4p (because of some flashy KO's), I would agree with you that the winner of Mares - Moreno could be considered top 10 p4p. However, I don't think Donaire should be in yet (and if you want to put him in, i can't see him being higher than 9 or 10). IMO, the winner of this fight should fight Donaire, and the winner of that fight is definitely top 10 p4p.
P4P gets thrown around too easily recently of fighters not really deserving.Last edited by Oh you out son; 09-03-2012, 06:08 PM.Comment
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Moreno is going to school mares!Comment
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Moreno wins ... but loses officiallyComment
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When a guy defeats the best fighter at every weight class he's fought, he is definitely top 10, if not top 5
112- Darchinyan (regarded as the best at 112)
115- Narvaez (yes, he moved up but lets face it, the result would have been the same at 115)
115- Marquez - interim
118- Montiel (regarded as the best at 118)
122- Nishioka (regarded as the best at 122)
Pepper that with some names like Hernan Marquez and Mthalane, both of which have proven to be quality fighters.
Now, adding a victory of Mares or Moreno would simply confirm it, but i dont think he needs to do it just to prove he's top 10. He's top 10 based on his existing resume.
If Nonito goes on to face the top guy at 126 (which I think is pushing it), I wouldnt give a **** ass if he didnt fight Rigondeaux, Mares or Moreno, 2 of which are not with his promotional company.
But if he stays at 122, he definitely needs to fight one of those aforementioned namesComment
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Aside from Vic being a common opponent that Moreno did much better against there are some style and stance comparisons that apply to a Mares/Moreno fight. Against Mares Vic fought off his back foot as a counter puncher but only countered with single power punches usually the left cross and uppercut.
Moreno is taller with way better defense and footwork than Vic. In general he's a better counter puncher but more important he throws combinations and uses a much wider varity. One big question is power as part of Vic's success may have come from dropping Mares and getting his respect but i do think Moreno's power along with his superior and frustrating counter punching ability will be capable of doing the same.
Mares is fundementally sound and alot more than a brawler but i'v always thought one of his biggest problems is he overestimates his boxing ability on the outside. Against Perez it was switching from a pressure style to boxing him mid fight that caused him to lose almost all the rounds in the second half of the fight causing the draw.
He's a capable boxer but he's a better pressure fight who is very good on the inside. If he embraced this as his identity inside the ring i think he would be alot better and against Moreno he'll get outclassed if he tries to box with him.Comment
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Mares wins. Pressures Moreno from the opening bell and stops him late. Why do people always think the better technical boxer wins? It's not always the case.Comment
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I have more respect for Mares than most current boxers. This guy doesnt just talk about it but he actually fights the best possible opponents. Nonetheless I think Moreno wins this fight.
As I have said before, I'd like to see Mares take a slightly extended break or at the very least a stay busy-easy/meaningless fight. The guy has been in 5 consecutive pressure-packed, physically and mentally draining fights (all going the distance). It's got to take a toll on the body and mind.Comment
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