Do you hate catchweights...?

[RlCKY]

Yes came in drained and in shape at 146. Once you are drained and in shape, you stool gotta take that/those extra pounds off somewhere. Anybody whos cut weight before knows, its those last pounds that are killer. Yes he just happened to weight. 146 point something against clottey, at the same time never....never came in weighing 145.

And noo, thats not what i meant to tell you. I made a point in saying he had to starve himself extra to make 145, moreso than restricting his diet trying to make 146/7. That extra pound has got to come off somewhere.

[B]now, lets get down to biscuits and gravy. There is only one reason why pac demanded the catchweight. One and only one.

I agree with the bold. I still don't know where you're getting your information from that all the way down to 146 he's ok...but take that 1 pound off and he is at a disadvantage...

Not calling you a liar, but you keep reiterating that the 1 pound is the difference maker. Where and when, and by whom was that stated? You said it yourself that Miguel wouldn't/didn't use that as the excuse/reason.
So then who did?

[RlCKY]

To be clearr, i dont think it affected cotto much, he was in great shape and still strong. Im just saying it was, and is, a b!tch move on mannys part tho, i have no problem calling him out on that.

So then what is the point of this thread?

We've established that both fighters agreed to the catchweight, AND, it didnt affect Cotto much. So if everyone is happy and terms are agreed to, what is the problem with catchweights? Even if one fighter's purpose for doing so is to gain a perceived advantage, which you yourself admitted that you thought the affect it had on Cotto was minimal.

[~AK49~]

I agree with the bold. I still don't know where you're getting your information from that all the way down to 146 he's ok...but take that 1 pound off and he is at a disadvantage...

Not calling you a liar, but you keep reiterating that the 1 pound is the difference maker. Where and when, and by whom was that stated? You said it yourself that Miguel wouldn't/didn't use that as the excuse/reason.
So then who did?

You tell me why pac demanded/requested 143/145

[~AK49~]

So then what is the point of this thread?

We've established that both fighters agreed to the catchweight, AND, it didnt affect Cotto much. So if everyone is happy and terms are agreed to, what is the problem with catchweights? Even if one fighter's purpose for doing so is to gain a perceived advantage, which you yourself admitted that you thought the affect it had on Cotto was minimal.

To see if people were cool with catchweights, and under what circumstances. The cotto conversation just took off because of my sig, and because pacquiao is an example of the circumstance of demanding catchweights merely for the fact of putting his opponent at a disadvantage/make then weaker.

[edgarg]

I don't have a problem with catchweights in general. They are good ideas in a lot of cases.

Absolutely. (mimicing Lennox Lewis) Catchweight's are to try to get back a decided advantage one fighter has over the other, to make it a more level playing field. Otherwise there's no genuine competiton. There have been catchweights almost from the beginning of organised boxing, certainly from the start of the 20th century. For example, if my memory is good, I've read of many big fights where the weight limit was stipulated by the champion, and I know that the famous lightweight Joe Gans,actually more comfortable at a few lbs heavier, had tough fights where he was limited to 132-33 lbs at ringside

One could almost say that Chavez Jr. fights at a catchweight by coming in at 160, when he'd be far more comfortable at 168......... Cotto at 5 inches shorter should have no trouble making 150, especially since over half his career was at 140, but it's a good bargaining chip. His "pride" also comes into it.

[Bushbaby]

I don't really hate catchweights. They've been around probably longer than I've been in existence. People simply assume that you do when you say certain things.

Like when you speak on Pacman trying to make a living off of them. If you say why would you ask a man that you already destroyed for yet another to face him, (after calling him out). Or why the hell did he fight Margarito of all people for 1 in a class none were realistically ranked in, knowing he was a banned cheater. Or why would you bring Marquez inside the welterweight limit when all your fans believe you could easily make 140, only to promise a beating & end up ultimately being schooled. When that happens, maybe a fighter & his catchweights start to wear thin. Just saying.

[Chrismart]

I dont mind catchweights in gerenal. If both fighters are happy doing it and we get to see good fights we may not normally see then thats fine IMO.

I don't like catchweights when a title is on the line though..if you want to be a champion of a division i think you should fight at the weight required.

[hugh grant]

As long as it doesn't severely drain and/or put either fighter at a real disadvantage I don't see the problem.

Exactly, there is nothing wrong with catchweights when 2 grown up boxers who know what they are letting themselves in for agree to a weight where they can fight. There is enough boxers making excuses they are in different weight categories to avoid fighting each other as it is, for the fight starved fan to start complaing about CWs!

[CHOWWOKKA]

I love catchweights!

I think everytime a boxer wants to move up they should take there time and do it pound by pound so they feel ABSOLUTELY comfortable because god forbid they have a tough fight..

[kiaba360]

I don't like catch-weights in general. However, I won't complain about it if there's no title at stake.