"The US is not doing as well in boxing because they're all in the NBA & NFL" - agree?

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  • DeadLikeMe
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    #211
    Originally posted by Freedom.
    Times are changing. The rest of the world has caught up to the USA. Why not be good sports and admit it?

    Not just yet they haven't. But we really are becoming a global society.

    In Soviet Russia Bronze Medal is Best Medal. Use to fix pipe.

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    • FUC_U_PAYME
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      #212
      Originally posted by mikhnienko
      so america has got 108 total medals in the modern olympics for boxing? And soviet union got 91 yet they only competed in half the amount of olympic games compared to america. Almost the same amount of medals...half the games....



      why didn't you guys write in all capital letters earlier!!! I understand everything you're saying now i just couldn't read the words before. If the rest of you guys were equally good problem solvers as fuc u payme we could have avoided all this debate!!!!
      im at work sorry for the caps.

      How can the the ussr have 91 when cuba is second with 63

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      • Joeyzagz
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        #213
        The loaded part of the question is "The US is not doing well." Is this your example of NOT DOING WELL:

        Superfeatherweight: #1 Adrien Broner
        Light Welterweight: #1 Timothy Bradley
        Welterweight: #1 Floyd Mayweather Jr
        Supermidleweight: #1 Andre Ward
        Light Heavyweight: #1 Chad Dawson

        Thats complete domination from 135-175. Anyone above that gets siphoned off to NFL/NBA, and Yanks are too beefy to compete below that.

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        • The Gambler1981
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          #214
          If you are over 6'5" and athletic looking the first words out of anyone's mouth toward you will be "do you play basketball"~ in the US.

          If you are that tall maybe a bit shorter but beefier it would be "do you play football."


          If someone responded back "no, I am a boxer" to either question you would get looked at like you are from Mars.

          Straight up~ if you can't accept that the best large athletes don't box from the US anymore then I don't know what to say. You can't turn chicken shit into chicken salad~ so if US trainers are starting with inferior large athletes the outcome is obvious. The US still produces other quality boxers, who happen to be a bit smaller athletes just the big excellent athletes you don't see unless they come to the game late~
          Last edited by The Gambler1981; 08-09-2012, 12:02 PM.

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          • The Hammer
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            #215
            Superfeatherweight: Adrien Broner needed a weight advantage to beat a journeyman in his last fight

            Light Welterweight: Timothy Bradley really lost to Pacquiao, 1 KO in 10 fights

            Welterweight: Floyd Mayweather Jr Getting old now, there is NO new Floyd coming up

            Supermidleweight: Andre Ward Azazel needs to fight at home to get away with his headbutts & holding

            Light Heavyweight: Chad Dawson fought old men except when he lost to Pascal

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            • The Hammer
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              #216
              The idea "If boxers are not American they're no good" is illogical, unscientific and ******.

              The reality is, there are talented fighters from all over the world.

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              • Mr Randy Watson
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                #217
                Originally posted by Freedom.
                Superfeatherweight: Adrien Broner needed a weight advantage to beat a journeyman in his last fight

                Light Welterweight: Timothy Bradley really lost to Pacquiao, 1 KO in 10 fights

                Welterweight: Floyd Mayweather Jr Getting old now, there is NO new Floyd coming up

                Supermidleweight: Andre Ward Azazel needs to fight at home to get away with his headbutts & holding

                Light Heavyweight: Chad Dawson fought old men except when he lost to Pascal
                130- Who beats Broner @ super featherweight???

                140 - If it's not bradley its Danny garcia because khan was the best @ 140.

                147- yes hes getting old but still dominating.

                154- i like how you skipped it cause floyds the best there too.

                168- really? He is unbeatable in a pretty stacked division. You sound a little upset

                175- Either dawson or Bhop who is almost 50.. pretty embarrassing for non-Americans.

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                • bojangles1987
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                  #218
                  Originally posted by Freedom.
                  The idea "If boxers are not American they're no good" is illogical, unscientific and ******.

                  The reality is, there are talented fighters from all over the world.
                  That's not the f***ing issue, don't change the subject now because you look like an idiot talking about American athletes and where they do or do not migrate when they begin athletic careers.

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                  • The Hammer
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                    #219
                    130- Who beats Broner @ super featherweight??? He can't make super featherweight! He'll lose at 140 fighting men his own size

                    140 - If it's not bradley its Danny garcia because khan was the best @ 140. to be fair, Danny Garcia IS very impressive

                    147- yes hes getting old but still dominating. he only fights once a year now - who will replace him as an elite boxer in the lighter divisions?

                    154- i like how you skipped it cause floyds the best there too. and getting old as Methusaleh

                    168- really? He is unbeatable in a pretty stacked division. You sound a little upset he'd lose if he didn't always fight at home, with those shady refs to let him cheat (or in Europe with the stringent PED testing that might reveal what Victor Conte's help was)

                    175- Either dawson or Bhop who is almost 50.. pretty embarrassing for non-Americans. B-Hop is very close to retirement
                    Last edited by The Hammer; 08-09-2012, 02:05 PM.

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                    • Sweet Pea 50
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                      #220
                      I do think that a few NFL linebackers, defensive ends, and power forwards from the NBA could cause some havoc in the H.W. division, if they had been turned down a boxing path at a young age, instead of the sport that they play now.

                      As far as the lighter weight divisions, really can't say, as the majority of both NFL and NBA players are much bigger then your average light weight, welter, or even middle weight.

                      My 2 pennies.

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