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  • Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
    spain and argentina are good but how many of those players would be allstars in the nba?
    Gasol for Spain and Ginobili for Argentina have both played in multiple NBA all star games.

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    • Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
      spain and argentina are good but how many of those players would be allstars in the nba?
      7 out of 12 are on nba teams and three out of 7 can play in the allstar game imo

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      • Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
        spain and argentina are good but how many of those players would be allstars in the nba?
        7 out of 12 are on nba teams and three out of 7 can play in the allstar game imo

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        • that's bull**** lol

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          • Originally posted by New England View Post
            when did europe and cuba rule the division? this is the most important aspect of the argument.

            we are going in circles here.

            america ruled the division when our best HW athletes boxed. fact, not opinion.
            they dont box anymore. fact, not opinion.

            and now we dont rule the division.

            the best HW athletes from america are playing football and basketball

            until recently, they were not.

            these are all facts. they aren't opinions.

            your refusal to recognize them is not something on which i cannot waste any more time.
            Pretty simple the best athletes in Europe have never gone into boxing hence the whole argument is nul and void every country loses its best athletes to other sports that are more popular in that particular country it pretty damn simple concept to grasp.

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            • I'm starting to think some people on here actually believe athletes from America are genetically superior to other countries lol pretty damn ridiculous.

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              • Courtesy of JAB

                Originally posted by JAB5239
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                I haven't see anyone bring up college and economic reasons. Someone correct me if Im wrong, but isn't college in Europe free or at least much cheaper than it is here? I know it is very expensive here and boxing is not amongst the sports you can receive scholarship money. From an early age kids are exposed to football and basketball in school. Sports is also the easiest way to an education for those who can't afford it. I know thousands and thousands of scholarships are given out every year for football and basketball. How many are given out for boxing in the US. So its just ridiculous to think that hasn't had an impact on our larger fighters. As the world opens up of course it will gain ground on whoever is in the lead at ANYTHING, that's just how the cookie crumbles. But to think there are no other contributing factors is just ignorance.

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                • Originally posted by -Lowkey- View Post
                  I'm starting to think some people on here actually believe athletes from America are genetically superior to other countries lol pretty damn ridiculous.
                  Don't be a puss.

                  Name "some people".

                  As far as basketball and American "hand egg", it is HUGELY competitive here in the states, with millions of youngsters playing both sports from a young age.

                  It's not "genetics". It's "competition."

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                  • Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
                    Have you seen Spain or Argentina? Non All-Star teams my ass. LMAO at you comparing the Klitschkos to Team USA playing increasingly better international teams.

                    Changing the subject again. No surprise.
                    None come to the powerhouse the US team though.


                    Originally posted by FUC_U_PAYME View Post
                    what happend when we did not send our best we got the bronze and if we send collage player we wont medal because spain, russia etc have good team with nba allstars too
                    Damn so we rely on NBA players for gold. Hmmm! I thought we have been the best in basketball always?


                    Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
                    I don't want to hear basketball references from a guy who can't even spell Larry Bird's name correctly~

                    Byrd ~

                    Oh I'm so sorry that I made a simple mistake with my spelling with Larry Bird. I didn't know this was class but I'll make sure I pay more attention to the crybabies and my spelling on here than women on messenger.

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                    • The US is doing fine in boxing, they are still the top dog and I think will always be the top dog.

                      The higher classes ARE being affected by the NBA and NFL but by a culture standpoint. Not like through Lebron james into a boxing ring and he will be a star.

                      Its how the culture has changed. The NFL and NBA is far bigger then it ever was and the jr, peewee leagues are booming also. The big kids are pushed more to basketball and football these days and these tons of programs for them unlike boxing which does not promote anything.

                      The talent pool is very very thin and will be for a long long time

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