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  • #21
    Things I like: size, killer instinct, punch.

    Things I dislike: his management, trainer, and low skill level.

    His manager/trainer need to be replaced. They've had him fighting bums forever, and then after finally having a few bouts against guys with winning records, they try to throw him in there with an undefeated fighter (Kelvin Price) who upset Tor Hamer? ******.

    He is at a stage were he should be fighting tough journeymen to get the rounds in. Fighters like Friday Ahunanya, Remigijus Ziausys, Jameel McCline, Dominick Guinn, Nagy Aguilera, ect.

    If he just blasts through all his opponents in the first 4 rounds, how is he going to know how to handle twelve rounds once it's time for a title shot or eliminator against a good fighter?

    He has potential, no doubt, but he hasn't grown any. If Manny wasn't working with Wlad he'd be perfect to show him what he needs to know.

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    • #22
      I think I've just decided that he will always appear to be a bit raw.

      He will continue to improve, but I don't think he will ever be pleasing enough to the eye to satisfy everyone's expectation of him. Much the same way Jermain Taylor frustrated many purists by never quite being able to harness his athleticism and translate it into boxing finesse. I'm not comparing their styles or their accomplishments at this age...just saying the more the watch Wilder the more I am reminded of a heavyweight JT and, for me at least, that is a good thing because I was a big time fan of his.

      Wilder will always be chasing his "potential" even if does end up winning a championship one day. I'm not going to hold his rawness against him for now and I wouldn't try to argue with someone who can point out his flaws, I will concede there are plenty.

      But there have been tons of fighters where the rawness and/or awkwardness became an advantage. Being able to hurt guys with every single shot makes it even more difficult; add his jab, speed, and length and many will simply get overwhelmed once he opens up. I really really want to see is him go some rounds to see how he does when he gets a little tired and has to think through that.

      I'm a fan, but I still can't put him over another polarizing guy like a Tyson Fury because he's at least getting into mini battles and working through them. proverbial boxing knowledge can go out the window at heavyweight though, so like you said, Wilder bringing one punch element to his game could shoot him up very quickly.

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      • #23
        I don't agree with the management team beef, their goal was to get him from a raw diamond that was basically still encased in stone and turn him into a grade A gemstone, and I can see quality progress in him. As long as a prospect is progressing I don't see how someone could really fault his trainer or team.

        To me he is right where he is suppose to be and things are looking up~ but he still has a ways to go of that there is no doubt so if he stops getting better then I will worry about such things.

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        • #24
          COunt me in.

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          • #25
            They should take the same approach that Andre Ward did. Develop slowly, even if it's against obscure opponents.

            And don't step up to the big time until they are satisfied that they have developed him thoroughly in all areas.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
              They should take the same approach that Andre Ward did. Develop slowly, even if it's against obscure opponents.

              And don't step up to the big time until they are satisfied that they have developed him thoroughly in all areas.
              Well Ward has 25 fights and has already beaten Froch, Abraham, Bika, Green, Kessler and Miranda.

              Wilder has 24 fights and has beaten ... well, nobody.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by vacon04 View Post
                Well Ward has 25 fights and has already beaten Froch, Abraham, Bika, Green, Kessler and Miranda.

                Wilder has 24 fights and has beaten ... well, nobody.
                Well Wilder certainly hasn't beaten anyone I can't deny that.

                I would just say Ward who was much closer to a finished product coming into the pro ranks and he didn't fight Kessler until about 5 years into his career, so they still took a lot of time with him. Wilder is just short of 4 years in at the same time Ward was fighting the Jerson Ravelo's of the world~ which is a bit ahead of where Wilder is but not like he was doing anything that impressive.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by vacon04 View Post
                  Well Ward has 25 fights and has already beaten Froch, Abraham, Bika, Green, Kessler and Miranda.

                  Wilder has 24 fights and has beaten ... well, nobody.
                  Ward had an extensive amateur career. Wilder didn't. He has to make up for that experience now.

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                  • #29
                    Didn't know if anybody saw his fight last night. Here it is:

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                    • #30
                      Might be a good time to bring this back out coming off a devastating knockout and before he really hits the big time~

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