What's wrong with Guerro?

[shade darkar]

Yes.

He was asked about a fighter he believes could be on drugs.

"Self presevation" is not about fighting Pacquaio. It's about fighting Pacquaio, who he believes could possibly on drugs.

Which is why, you're taking the quote out of context.

so its his own paranoia then, no?

[The Big Dunn]

im not tailoring anything. im not a big fan of either guy. i just like watching them fight.

How the **** are you not a big fan of either when they are 3 and 4 on your list of favorite fighters.

[IronDanHamza]

so its his own paranoia then, no?

He would say the same thing if he thought Cotto, Mosley and Hatton were on drugs or they refused to take a drug testing procedure.

It's not the fact it's Pacquaio that he's talking about self preservation. Which again, is why you're taking it out of context.

But, Pacquaio said he will take the testing now so we'll have to see what happens. I'll believe it when I see it.

I think both fighters aren't pushing their weight to make the fight and are happy making money elsewhere living off each other's names.

[The Big Dunn]

so its his own paranoia then, no?

no, he may beleive manny uses PEd's, and , even though manny has not tested positive, manny's refusal to fight over the test, the BS reasons for that, the trying to negotiate when the tests would be, and the refusal to have advanced testing in all his fights since, suggest something isn't right.

[IronDanHamza]

How the **** are you not a big fan of either when they are 3 and 4 on your list of favorite fighters.

I thought that was strange also.

[shade darkar]

come on now shade. yopu've debated body movin plenty and he has it in his sig so GTFO!

see this is my point. Manny can turn down ped testing and only agree to it if he gets the 50/50 split he wants, and you give him the benfit of the doubt but floyd you take what he says and always slant it negatively. I don't get that.

there is NO NO NO economic argument for 50/50, only people who either want floyd to just give it to manny because they hate floyd or because manny said thats what he wants.

body movin? has what in his sig?

my opinion on the testing is very simple. yes its a good thing, but it isnt mandatory and until the day it is, any fighter has the right to turn it down. there was an interview with lennox lewis about this issue back in 09 and he put it the way i seen it at the time. he was saying that pacquiao was thinking, who is this guy to tell me what to do? at the same time accusing pacquiao of being on drugs. These are the rules, do you want to fight?

the reson i say 50/50 is fair is this. they are the 2 best fighters in the sport. they both sell similar numbers on ppv. they will both recieve their highest ever paydays. so whats the problem? and to be quite honest, i dont really care who gets what, i just want to see the fcukin fight!

[shade darkar]

How the **** are you not a big fan of either when they are 3 and 4 on your list of favorite fighters.

doesnt mean im a big fan. it means i like watching them fight. pretty simple really.

[shade darkar]

He would say the same thing if he thought Cotto, Mosley and Hatton were on drugs or they refused to take a drug testing procedure.

It's not the fact it's Pacquaio that he's talking about self preservation. Which again, is why you're taking it out of context.

But, Pacquaio said he will take the testing now so we'll have to see what happens. I'll believe it when I see it.

I think both fighters aren't pushing their weight to make the fight and are happy making money elsewhere living off each other's names.

thats the thing tho, he didnt think that they were on drugs. why does he think pacquiao is on drugs before asking him to take extra tests?

[IronDanHamza]

doesnt mean im a big fan. it means i like watching them fight. pretty simple really.

I don't know, usually, your #3 and #4 favourite fighters you tend to be a fan of.

[IronDanHamza]

thats the thing tho, he didnt think that they were on drugs. why does he think pacquiao is on drugs before asking him to take extra tests?

I'm not sure, there was certainly a lot of speculation going around. For whatever reason.

I didn't suspect him of being on drugs, personally.

But then when he refused to take the drug testing procedure, it of course ignited a huge flame in that regard.