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  • #51
    Originally posted by shade darkar View Post
    keep doing what?

    exactly, so the jibberish you were saying about the older fighter was just that, jibberish!

    pacquiao will fight mayweather if the terms are fair. he has said 50/50 which is fair. floyd isnt prepared to do that, and he isnt prepared to do 45/45 with 10 to the winner. so come of the crap that mayweather cant make pacquiao fight him. i bet pacquiao would take 60/40 in favour of floyd.

    however, floyd sayin and i quote " 40 mil, take it or leave it" isnt what id call a guy who wants to fight.
    He walked away from an absolutely fair deal at the end of 2009.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
      The self preservation quote. You have taken out of context.



      That obviously depends on the fighter.

      Do all defensive fighters who avoid punishment last longer in this game?

      I'm sure Wilfred Benitez could argue differently.
      is it not true that floyd said he was willing to die to ortiz, cotto hatton etc?
      is it not true that floyd talks about health and self preservation when he talks about pacquaio?

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      • #53
        Originally posted by shade darkar View Post
        is it not true that floyd said he was willing to die to ortiz, cotto hatton etc?
        is it not true that floyd talks about health and self preservation when he talks about pacquaio?
        It is true.

        When talking about "Self Preservation", he is talking about fighting a fighter who were to be on drugs.

        Which is why, you're taking the quote out of context.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
          Floyd has been saying 60/40. Merchant asked him about that exact split and would he come off it after the Cotto fight, so perhaps you are wrong about manny.

          How do you reach the conclusion manny would fight when the terms are fair when he turned down terms in dec 09 that were favorable? just like you hold floyd accountable for his actions and words, you must do the same with manny.

          right now, manny doesn't deserve a 50/50 split and the numbers show this beyond a shadow of any doubt. 60/40 is fair, manny should take that, but he hasn't.
          i havent seen floyd say 60/40, but if thats the case, then great. we might get a fight.

          because in 09, he hadnt agreed to take the extra tests, apparently he has now, so thats how i reach that conclusion.

          didnt pacquiao sell 1.5 million or somewhere around that figure against marquez? so an arguement can be made for 50/50. floyd doesnt sell more than that.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
            It is true.

            When talking about "Self Preservation", he is talking about fighting a fighter who were to be on drugs.

            Which is why, you're taking the quote out of context.
            he knows. shade is not ******. he is just tailoring it to fit his argument.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
              It is true.

              When talking about "Self Preservation", he is talking about fighting a fighter who were to be on drugs.

              Which is why, you're taking the quote out of context.
              when talking about self preservation he had just been asked a question about pacquiao.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                he knows. shade is not ******. he is just tailoring it to fit his argument.
                im not tailoring anything. im not a big fan of either guy. i just like watching them fight.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by shade darkar View Post
                  when talking about self preservation he had just been asked a question about pacquiao.
                  Yes.

                  He was asked about a fighter he believes could be on drugs.

                  "Self presevation" is not about fighting Pacquaio. It's about fighting Pacquaio, who he believes could possibly on drugs.

                  Which is why, you're taking the quote out of context.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by shade darkar View Post
                    i havent seen floyd say 60/40, but if thats the case, then great. we might get a fight.

                    because in 09, he hadnt agreed to take the extra tests, apparently he has now, so thats how i reach that conclusion.

                    didnt pacquiao sell 1.5 million or somewhere around that figure against marquez? so an arguement can be made for 50/50. floyd doesnt sell more than that.
                    Not as far as I'm aware.

                    But 50/50 is fair in my opinion. Despite Mayweather doing better numbers than Pacquaio.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by shade darkar View Post
                      i havent seen floyd say 60/40, but if thats the case, then great. we might get a fight.

                      because in 09, he hadnt agreed to take the extra tests, apparently he has now, so thats how i reach that conclusion.

                      didnt pacquiao sell 1.5 million or somewhere around that figure against marquez? so an arguement can be made for 50/50. floyd doesnt sell more than that.
                      come on now shade. yopu've debated body movin plenty and he has it in his sig so GTFO!

                      see this is my point. Manny can turn down ped testing and only agree to it if he gets the 50/50 split he wants, and you give him the benfit of the doubt but floyd you take what he says and always slant it negatively. I don't get that.

                      there is NO NO NO economic argument for 50/50, only people who either want floyd to just give it to manny because they hate floyd or because manny said thats what he wants.

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