What's Worse: Pacquiao draining Cotto by 2 lbs, Or Ward draining Dawson by 7 lbs?

[bare knuckle]

Wrong! There are many great fighters sooooooo much better than Floyd legacy wise who suffered a ko losses in their career. Undefeated don't mean anything but resume did. Floyd took less cherry picked fights = lesser risk to preserved his 0. Floyd is clever by following his motto seriously. "Self preservation comes first." You see...its been 5 years since he retired and came back. How many fights did he fought in those 5 years? just 4 fights bro! Just four fight! Less cherry picked fights mean a lesser risk to his 0 record.

2012 - past prime Cotto
2011 - sucker punched Ortiz
2010 - past prime Mosley
2009 - weight cheated Marquez
2008 - retired

Now in the same 5 years Pac fought 10 times = greater risk but well earned for his legacy.


2012 - Bradley
2011 - Marquez, Mosley
2010 - Margarito, Clottey
2009 - Cotto, Hatton
2008 - Oscar, Diaz, Marquez

Floyd undefeated record will never beat Pac accomplishments in his lifetime.

8 divisions champ
4 lineal divisions champ
Fighter of the Decade
3 times Fighter of the Year

Manny was knocked out by 2 goat herders man

[bare knuckle]

Black boxers get away with so much ****. From draining boxers, hometown fights, decisions, ducking to cheating. Chad Dawson has not fought at 168 in YEARS. These same guys praising Ward are the same ones that are critcizing Pac for two pounds on a WW at the time and DLH who hasn't fought at WW in years.

Oh damn lets play the race card

[NearHypnos]

Cotto, easily. It was unecessary. Dawson-Ward is different because Dawson is meeting hmWard at his weight and issue the challenge. Its like trying to say Pac fought an unproven at 147 Bradley. That was their choice it was never a fight breaking decision like Pac's catchweight has apparently been. Dawson challenged Ward at 168. There was no dispute.

[John Barron]

pacquiao-cotto is worse. they actually wanted cotto at 142 just like how they also wanted shane at 142. the way team pacquiao plays with weight is de****able.

[bare knuckle]

I said the same thing, but for some reason, Pacquiao and his people wanted the fight at 145lbs...and Pacquiao wasn't even the champion.

And would not make the fight without the catchweight

[Redd Foxx]

These poor souls being forced to drain against their will, without a choice or a voice. I weep for them.
It's business and if they make poor choices in their negotiations, then that's life.

[Ringlife]

Chad called him out and said he would fight ward at 168. So ward said I am the man 168 come and get it.

[Frank Ducketts]

Manny was knocked out by 2 goat herders man

Lmmfao......

[Boxingwizard]

These poor souls being forced to drain against their will, without a choice or a voice. I weep for them.
It's business and if they make poor choices in their negotiations, then that's life.

Chad did volunteer and said he was willing to move down. Had Dawson said I'm willing to fight Ward without mentioning the weight, Dawson probably wouldn't have gotten the fight.

But Chad was very eager to move down, and the negotiations were very smooth and fast, it took only eight days for both parties to sign the contract. Dawson always wanted the big names for some reason. He wanted a piece of Calzaghe, didn't get it. He called out Hopkins for like three years and he finally got the fight this year. This time he wants Ward. If Ward wasn't a name, Dawson would probably be fighting Shumenov right now.

[Phenom]

shame at these people trying to justify Ward not budging on 168 Dawson is doing the same thing DLH did for the Pacquiao fight trying to make a weight he hasn't fought in for 8 years

not only that but Dawson has to fight him in his back yard