What's Worse: Pacquiao draining Cotto by 2 lbs, Or Ward draining Dawson by 7 lbs?

[HeroBando]

You keep bringing up that Pacquiao came through 6 weight classes and really that is a moot point. What pacquiao did 15 years ago doesn't give him permission to be lame. Not to mention the fact that when he was weighing 106 lbs he was 16. If every boxer turned pro when they were 16 I guarantee you could add at least 3 divisions to their resume. He didn't hit the gym and bulk up because he cleaned out his 106 lb division(lol), he simply went through puberty. That is it, so don't make it seem to be an unfathomable accomplishment because it isn't. And yes Cotto's request was lame as well, but he was against Margarito.....Margarito.... If there was ever a time where I would care about stacking the odds against a favor, it is against Margarito. But if it makes you happy, Cotto sucks as well.

Not 15 years ago, try 12 months. He was at 130 1 1/2 years before Cotto, that was the last time he had back to back fights in the same division. If you knew Pac could take Cotto at 145 just 12 months earlier, you could have bought a new car for a $1000 bet.

[Kuyukut]

I might say the worst thing a boxer can do to his opponent is to come in 4 lbs over the contracted weight.

[CHOWWOKKA]

Not 15 years ago, try 12 months. He was at 130 1 1/2 years before Cotto, that was the last time he had back to back fights in the same division. If you knew Pac could take Cotto at 145 just 12 months earlier, you could have bought a new car for a $1000 bet.

Pacquiao wasn't 106 lbs 12 months before the Cotto fight. Can you read?

[Bushbaby]

You were ****ting plenty on Pac for not accommodating Cotto at 154 before I ever put my 2 cents in. And just cannot accept that Pac said he's done with 150+ in general, why is this so hard to process? We should linger on this for a second longer, do you understand it implies no Cotto at 154? Do you? Even no Wolak and Rodriguez; in your world he must be ducking them.

And now you claim immunity unless I quote you word for word, whatever. And claim ignorance on the Cotto Marg cw lol. You also couldn't muster up some token condemnation for those 3 pathetic cw requests, after littering the board with Pac cw posts for years, and I'm sure will keep at it.

It's this simple. You don't say a Lamborghini needs slicks to race an iroc. The Lambo should be superior. You don't say a Lambo needs nitro to race a mustang. I did not claim ignorance about anything. Understand this, if you're able. Cotto was destroyed by Margarito. Pacman destroyed Cotto. It seems far more realistic that an already beaten Cotto would ask for whatever needed to face a man that destroyed him. However the supposedly superior fighter (Pacman), refusing to fight an inferior fighter (Cotto), when he's healthy, raises eyebrows. To anyone capable of being real & honest. Which you don't seem.

[slackblick]

is this some kind of joke? are p@ctards actually trying to compare pac-cotto to dawson-ward????? damn, pacfans really don't know ***** about boxing!!!!

[HeroBando]

Pacquiao wasn't 106 lbs 12 months before the Cotto fight. Can you read?

Ok whatever, I didn't mention 106 once. I mentioned 122-130, where he established first ballot creds, wasn't that long ago. In 1 1/2 yrs he stepped up an extra 3 divisions, wanting a cw for the last one, against world class Cotto with 2 good eyes. Cotto is in his third careerwise, asking for cws against one eyed bums. Can you help me quantify this, does that make Pac 3x the man Cotto is? 2x only?

[CHOWWOKKA]

Ok whatever, I didn't mention 106 once. I mentioned 122-130, where he established first ballot creds, wasn't that long ago. In 1 1/2 yrs he stepped up an extra 3 divisions, wanting a cw for the last one, against world class Cotto with 2 good eyes. Cotto is in his third careerwise, asking for cws against one eyed bums. Can you help me quantify this, does that make Pac 3x the man Cotto is? 2x only?

I already said they both suck.... What more do you want? Pacquiao sucks more for other reasons though.

[HeroBando]

It's this simple. You don't say a Lamborghini needs slicks to race an iroc. The Lambo should be superior. You don't say a Lambo needs nitro to race a mustang. I did not claim ignorance about anything. Understand this, if you're able. Cotto was destroyed by Margarito. Pacman destroyed Cotto. It seems far more realistic that an already beaten Cotto would ask for whatever needed to face a man that destroyed him. However the supposedly superior fighter (Pacman), refusing to fight an inferior fighter (Cotto), when he's healthy, raises eyebrows. To anyone capable of being real & honest. Which you don't seem.

Alright, I'm tired of rehashing this with you, you don't care to be consistent so we're not getting anywhere.

Just one last question for you, hope you don't duck this one like the others. Where did you have PWill p4p right before his attempt at the lineal belt at 157? How about Pac at the time, p4p?

[CHOWWOKKA]

Robert Guerrero went up 2 weight classes to fight without a catchweight, why couldn't Pacquiao?

[HeroBando]

Robert Guerrero went up 2 weight classes to fight without a catchweight, why couldn't Pacquiao?

For an interim belt against a guy ranked number 10 (1-1 vs Jojo Dan in his hometown), over whom he had a good reach advantage. Not that different than his campaign at 135. Good result, when you factor in he was the "smaller guy". Without this qualifier, a Jojo Dan type of performance..

Shouldn't you be making threads ****ting on Broner for calling out Rios at a catchweight where we know Rios looks like a POW, no guesswork needed: