Who's resume is better at 147lbs? Mayweather or Pacquiao?

[bojangles1987]

I'd say Mayweather was winning this decisively with Mosley and Ortiz, but Pac closed the gap a little with the Bradley fight.

So Mayweather, but Pac could still close the gap again.

[The Big Dunn]

I voted floyd. Since they arrived at ww, floyd is 9-0 at ww, manny is 7-0.

Of those fights, floyd has 1 jww and 1 lw that moved up, and has 2 wins vs JMW, and defeated the #1 ww twice. Manny has 1 JWW and 1 LW that moved up, 1 JMW that moved down. Floyd has 1 CW fight, manny has 2, 1 of which was a JMW win.

Floyd was the undisputed and lineal ww champ, manny was not.

[Ray Corso]

Pacman makes the fights, he's the agressor and he fights within a boxers frame work. Floyd has great talent but his style needs a great opponent to make the fight! I'll take Pacman over Floyd everytime as far as watching a fight. Its to bad that BOTH Arum and Floyd has waited beyond their primes to fight but thats what happens when they look to pick up all the pennies!!
I could care less about them fighting, I lost interest 3 years ago! After all their both good not great and neither one can break an egg!! Ofcourse their considered great to fans that are less than 35 years old because they only accept current boxers as the staple of the sport. Can you imagine either of these little no power guys stepping in the ring with Sugar Ray Robinson. They'd get hammered and hurt!! Ray.

[4Corners]

he goes from a 5 to a 2 in a year? it's the same shot mosley what's the difference? you are either shot or you aren't. is this like roy jones vs calzaghe compared to roy jones vs danny green? oh yea calzaghe beat a much better version....

More important than who is when. When Floyd fought Mosley, EVERYONE wanted that fight and it was when Pac refused to fight him at 147 lbs. Seriously, do we need to bump the threads from this site that said stuff like "Floyd needs to fight Mosley or just retire"/"Floyd-Mosley is the fight I wanna see"????

When Manny fought him a year later, nobody wanted that fight, people were asking for Pac to fight Berto instead, who at the time was the #2 WW.

Floyd gets credit for the Mosley win, considering what Shane had done prior to that. Pac doesn't really get credit because he was coming off getting whupped and fighting a draw with Mora. End of story.

I'd say Mayweather.

The only wins at WW that Pac really gets credit for are Cotto, Clottey, and Bradley (he should have won). Mayweather gets credit for Judah, Baldomir, Hatton, Mosley, and Ortiz, being solid/good wins at those times. One can also see that Marquez arguably beat Pac at the same weight Floyd shut him out at.

[any craic lad?]

De la hoya drained, Cotto at catch weight, clottey coming off a loss, mosley coming off a loss and a draw, getting beat by jmm....that's not even IMHO

Why make the list when its obvious that your only happy with people who pick Floyd

[New England]

Floyd. He beat the lineal champ twice : Baldomir and Mosley.

mosley was lineal champion by virtue of a victory over margarito (whose winning of the lineage is almost certainly due to the use of plaster against miguel cotto.)
at the time of the victory it looked like a hell of a win for shane, but knowing what we know now it's pretty damn clear that the win was overrated. margarito was next to nothing without plaster. before he was caught loading his gloves he was battering people. after he was an average puncher at best.

and baldomir..
is baldomir


they both have very weak resume at WW. pacquiao's is obviously more impressive, given his size, but that's not what we're talking about in this thread.

i give the edge to pacquiao in wins

cotto, bradley, and clottey were all solid wins. he lost to marquez in a WW fight in my eyes (and everybody else's,) which hurts him a good deal . that same marquez looked like a fly fighting floyd mayweather

they're about even in my opinion. not very good WW resume. great fighters, though.

[New England]

Why make the list when its obvious that your only happy with people who pick Floyd

about 90% of the posters in NSB are here to push an agenda

[B Phontain]

I give the edge to Floyd taking in account he fought the #1 ww twice. And is technically Lineal Champ. And if im not mistaken, almost everybody he's fought at ww were in the top 3 when he fought them. It kills me to read someone type rankings dont matter, but only say that when it comes to Mayweather. Pacs best win at ww was/is Cotto...at 145. I think its something about that 145 that hurts that win a little to people whether its warranted or not. I kinda look at Cotto and Mosley the same. they had a real close fight with each other, but Cotto was beat the hell down by a cheating Margo, damn near loses to Clottey then gets sparked by Pac...at 145 while Mosley beat the brakes off a cheating Margo, stepped into the ring to challenge Floyd NEXT and got beat da hell up....Then fought a draw with Mora before getting put on his ass by Pac. All of this "Mosley was laid off for 16 months so he was old and shot and past his prime" talk is cool, but i find it funny that when it comes to Mayweather taking a 16 month or hell 21 month lay off all i hear is "well he had those lay offs so he has less wear and tear and can perform better etc." It cant be both ways guys. Mayweather ages too. I've even read "Mosley was going through a divorce" or sum excuse before too. Cmon son Floyd had to report to Jail a week after his fight was comming up and still went up to a weight he hadnt been at in 5 years to beat Cotto. Skills pay bills

and The big question that always seems to get asked but is seemingly never answered is who are/were these two supposed to fight REALISTICALLY that would have been "the best"? Are there names out there in the ww division that have been the best all these years that these two have somehow avoided? Where are these 'BEST" hiding at?

[any craic lad?]

about 90% of the posters in NSB are here to push an agenda

Ya i understand but it does not make it any less annoying too see

[Light_Speed]

mosley was lineal champion by virtue of a victory over margarito (whose winning of the lineage is almost certainly due to the use of plaster against miguel cotto.)
at the time of the victory it looked like a hell of a win for shane, but knowing what we know now it's pretty damn clear that the win was overrated. margarito was next to nothing without plaster. before he was caught loading his gloves he was battering people. after he was an average puncher at best.

All I see is speculations. Nobody knows whether or not Margarito had loaded wraps in his fights before Mosley, what we actually know is he TRIED to load his wraps before the Shane fight and got caught. And Margarito got beat by Williams clearly and nearly beat by Clottey long before the wraps controversy.

and baldomir..
is baldomir


they both have very weak resume at WW. pacquiao's is obviously more impressive, given his size, but that's not what we're talking about in this thread.

i give the edge to pacquiao in wins

cotto, bradley, and clottey were all solid wins. he lost to marquez in a WW fight in my eyes (and everybody else's,) which hurts him a good deal . that same marquez looked like a fly fighting floyd mayweather

they're about even in my opinion. not very good WW resume. great fighters, though.

You give the edge to Pac when he was outboxed by JMM who was shut out by Floyd?

And the Ortiz win at WW is better than Bradley because Ortiz actually won a title at that weight from a top 3 guy before facing Floyd.