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  • NChristo
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    #51
    Going to leave this here.

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    • HughJass
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      #52
      i done a thread back in 09 abt the greatest welterweight and the there was alot of folkes picking sugar ray robinson there were a few top threes too..
      1.robinson
      2.sugar ray leonard
      3.tommy hearns
      i picked aaron pryor only to find out he fought there only a few times so if had to repick mine it would certainly be hearns hes wanna my fav fighters and on his day could beat anybody

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      • CubanGuyNYC
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        #53
        Originally posted by NChristo
        Going to leave this here.
        Nice. Thanks for posting that link. I've seen "Mantequilla" fight before, but it's always a pleasure to watch him work. The welterweight division is stacked, so I don't think too many people would rank Napoles as #1. Nonetheless, Jose always makes the lists as a top-ten all-time WW, along with fellow Cuban Kid Gavilan.

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        • CubanGuyNYC
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          #54
          Originally posted by JK1700
          I haven't seen enough of Sugar Ray Robinson to answer the question and I don't want to disrespect him, but I would rate Floyd Mayweather Jr above Sugar Ray Leonard. Of course Ray has the better resume, because he came along in a much better era, but when your talking about the overall package of everything that a boxer has or could have, Floyd is superior to him. He's smarter and adapts better, his defence is better and his inside game is also better. I'm very confident that he would've beaten Ray had they fought prime for prime. If your rating the greatness of these welterweights purely on resume then Floyd can't be considered the best but has there been a more skilled boxer in the welterweight division? I haven't seen one. People like to discredit him because of the provocative and annoying character he plays to gain interest, but the reality is that he is easily one of the greatest boxers of all time. The best I have ever seen.
          I think Floyd is a great fighter, but I wouldn't pick him to beat Leonard or Hearns. For one, Mayweather is naturally smaller than the other two. His defense might be better than theirs, but he would be outgunned by both.

          "Sugar" had faster hands. Floyd's best weight arguably came before 147, so "prime for prime" they would've missed each other. Ray was smart and could certainly adjust; he was a deadly finisher and proven versus ATG competition in or near their prime. Mayweather would spend most of the night rolling off Tommy's jab and avoiding that ATG straight right. "Money's" five inch height disadvantage would make it very difficult to cope with the "Hit Man." As for skill, I might give Mayweather a slight edge; but his predecessors weren't slouches in that department.

          There's no shame in not being the very best. There can only be one, and then there's the rest. Floyd is up there, just not at the very pinnacle.

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          • New England
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            #55
            Originally posted by NChristo
            Going to leave this here.


            i dont know what i like more about the great A videos..

            its either the fighters, or the grade A (get it?) tunes

            those songs almost always seem to rule, and i've never heard any of them leading up to watching his highlights.

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            • CubanGuyNYC
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              #56
              Originally posted by New England
              i dont know what i like more about the great A videos..

              its either the fighters, or the grade A (get it?) tunes

              those songs almost always seem to rule, and i've never heard any of them leading up to watching his highlights.
              My brothah! While watching Napoles do his thing, I couldn't help but notice the great background music. I thought it sounded like early seventies Santana, with the incessant congas and distinctive guitar work. But I wasn't familiar with the tunes, so I broke out the "Shazam" app on my iPhone. Both tracks ("Freeway" and "Conquistadore Rides Again") are from the album "Live at the Fillmore 1968." Awesome accompaniment!

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