Fans and their "out of their prime" excuse

[DiegoFuego]

If you actually believe Tarver is the better fighter than Jones as a whole as far as history's concerned, let me hear you say that so I can call you an idiot.

Roy had a better career. Stylewise, Tarver gives Roy hell at any time in his career. I'd definitely pick Tarver over Roy at any point in history. I don't believe Tarver is the better overall fighter, but he beats Roy one on one any time.

[Bozo_no no]

Something tells me you scored more than 2 rounds for Roy in the third Tarver fight. Even Harold Lederman only gave Roy 3 rounds. THE SAME GUY THAT GAVE ROY 10 ROUNDS AGAINST HOPKINS IN 1993. ****, every single round of that fight was close as hell. I watched it last night and thought Hopkins could have earned a draw, though I scored it for Roy 116-112 on the grounds that Roy landed better power shots in a few key close rounds. Hell yeah, I know how to score. I take pride in my scorecards, and I gave Tarver 6 rounds. I'm pretty sure one of the judges had it a draw as well while the other two scored it for Roy by unacceptable landslide scores. 115-113 at best for Roy, 115-113 at best for Tarver. Close fight that could easily have been a draw.

If you're giving Tarver a draw, you're scoring Rounds for him where he threw 1 single flurry.

The fight was close after the 10th, but Roy clearly took 11 and 12.

If you had Tarver up by two rounds after 10, you don't know what you're doing.

That fight was clearly a compeitive win for Jones.

[DiegoFuego]

KT was definently not out of his prime when he fought Hatton. Hatton fought like a dirty *****, and his dad/referee allowed it. Hatton fans, dont jump on me, we've already had this discussion, I'm just stating that KT was NOT over the hill when he fought Hatton.

dude are u joking. You better not support the fight Castillo fought against Mayweather because Hatton fought Tszyu no differently. You're just biased. Hatton beat the **** out of Tszyu and so what if it was a little dirty. You're a ****ing Hopkins fan so get over it.

[DiegoFuego]

If you're giving Tarver a draw, you're scoring Rounds for him where he threw 1 single flurry.

The fight was close after the 10th, but Roy clearly took 11 and 12.

If you had Tarver up by two rounds after 10, you don't know what you're doing.

That fight was clearly a compeitive win for Jones.

don't agree at all. I'll go dig up my scorecard but I'm pretty damn sure Tarver won like 4 of the first 5 rounds cuz he landed flurries on the ropes while Jones just posed with his tongue out. I know he dominated some later rounds like 7 and 8 as well. Let me go find it right now and I'll rewatch it sometime this week.

[Bozo_no no]

Roy had a better career. Stylewise, Tarver gives Roy hell at any time in his career. I'd definitely pick Tarver over Roy at any point in history. I don't believe Tarver is the better overall fighter, but he beats Roy one on one any time.

I completely disagree with the "If they fought anytime Tarver would win" point, but I'm glad you weren't trying to tell me you thought Tarver was the better overall fighter.

A few of your earlier posts gave me the impression that's the road you were going down.

[DiegoFuego]

got it right here. I have Tarver rounds 1, 2 (not debatable), 6, 7, 8, and 10. I thought those were all clear rounds for Tarver, but I promise I'll watch it again ASAP this week.

[DiegoFuego]

I completely disagree with the "If they fought anytime Tarver would win" point, but I'm glad you weren't trying to tell me you thought Tarver was the better overall fighter.

A few of your earlier posts gave me the impression that's the road you were going down.

I probably did say that before. It's not that I hate Jones. I hate people like you who try to discredit Tarver for realizing his dreams of beating Roy.

[Bozo_no no]

don't agree at all. I'll go dig up my scorecard but I'm pretty damn sure Tarver won like 4 of the first 5 rounds cuz he landed flurries on the ropes while Jones just posed with his tongue out. I know he dominated some later rounds like 7 and 8 as well. Let me go find it right now and I'll rewatch it sometime this week.

Tarver fought in select spots where he would throw one flurry, and he didn't even do that in each round.

Jones controlled the center of the ring, and pot shotted for the majority of the time.

Tarver landed 4 punches in rounds 3 and 4, and landed 5 punches in round 5. They all came in one flurry. The rest of the time Jones dictated the pace and geography.

The only people who had that fight a draw or a win for Tarver were scoring with wither spite or the shock of seeing Roy being less dominant than in every previous fight.

That doesn't changed the fact he clearly won more rounds.

[DiegoFuego]

Don't tell me you're going by Compubox numbers because NOBODY BELIEVES THOSE FIGURES ANYMORE. Don't tell me Tarver landed five ****ing punches in his flurries. I seem to remember him trapping Jones in a corner and letting his hands go all over Jones, 20 punches at a time. Don't tell me he landed 5 punches in any one round cuz that's ****ing bull**** Jones asskissing talk.

[Bozo_no no]

I probably did say that before. It's not that I hate Jones. I hate people like you who try to discredit Tarver for realizing his dreams of beating Roy.

If you'd care to go back and read, I've given credit to Tarver about 3 seperate times.

But he didn't beat Jones at his best. And guys like you who try to insinuate he did are motivated by spite and or ignorance.