Does Vitali really have a granite chin?

[dan_cov]

Sorry but these guys aren't exactly great. Haye's resume is **** but so is the resume of both Klits. Yes they have beaten who they can in their era but the era is ****. The only challenge was an overweight Lewis who gave Vitali his toughest fight and left one of the worst cuts I've ever seen. Klit fans will say "4 rounds to 2" but who cares? Fights are 12 rounds not 6. We can't say what might have happened but what we do know is the result: Lewis won by TKO in 6.

I think Wlads resume is quite strong, Vitali's does lack but if you look at Wladimirs since 04 and remember most of these guys were undefeated, olympic gold medalists etc and to think he beat them all (K.O'd 13 of 16 I believe) and barely lost a handful of rounds in the process, that is pretty damn impressive.

Ibragimov, Chagaev, Haye, Brock, Peter etc

He pretty much stopped these guys from achieving more which kind of damages his resume but you look at that run, you'll find not many in heavyweight history fought that sort of competition back-to-back, one after the other.

[dan_cov]

Klitschko lost his legs 2-3 times that fight, which goes to show that when he fights guys his own size his chin is probably not comparable to the chins of the likes of Hagler and Chuvalo lol.

No shame there Hagler & Chuvalo had two of the best chins EVER!

[stefl14]

Boxing is the art of hitting & not getting hit. And was Hearns chin really that bad? A little shakey maybe but I think its overplayed.
He moved up through the weight classes & it held up pretty well, people forget the bombs he took from SRL over & over before finally crumbling in the 14th
Hagler, well Hagler hit like a damn mule.

I suppose it mainly comes from his stoppage loss to Barkley though I don't think his chin was bad as its labelled.

Vitali hits hard enough, I agree Wladimir is the far superior puncher of the two. For me probably one of the hardest punchers in history.

I agree with pretty much all of this. Hearns' chin is underrated but I think we can agree that it isn't iron. My point is that doing what Vitali has done doesn't mean his chin is granite. It's decent at the very least but we can't say it's definitely comparable to the likes of Chuvalo's chin because we haven't seen it tested enough. Based on what I've seen vs people like Lewis, I think Vitali has a world class chin but it certainly isn't the best in the game. People like Margarito have better chins as they have laughed off similar punches soo many times (I know he's been KO'd but look at how much he gets hit lol).

[dan_cov]

I agree with pretty much all of this. Hearns' chin is underrated but I think we can agree that it isn't iron. My point is that doing what Vitali has done doesn't mean his chin is granite. It's decent at the very least but we can't say it's definitely comparable to the likes of Chuvalo's chin because we haven't seen it tested enough. Based on what I've seen vs people like Lewis, I think Vitali has a world class chin but it certainly isn't the best in the game. People like Margarito have better chins as they have laughed off similar punches soo many times (I know he's been KO'd but look at how much he gets hit lol).

It maybe not be granite but yh certainly its world class at least.
I agree with Margarito that guy is a freak. Kind of worrying a guy can have his face hanging off & be blinded in one eye and still come forward, smiling like that lol
Oliver McCall is another one, he must be about 50 by now, is his punch resistance ever going to look to decline?
Could hit that guy with a sledgehammer & he wouldn't fcuking flinch

[stefl14]

It maybe not be granite but yh certainly its world class at least.
I agree with Margarito that guy is a freak. Kind of worrying a guy can have his face hanging off & be blinded in one eye and still come forward, smiling like that lol
Oliver McCall is another one, he must be about 50 by now, is his punch resistance ever going to look to decline?
Could hit that guy with a sledgehammer & he wouldn't fcuking flinch

Yeah didn't even think of McCall. I'm not sure I've ever seen him even remotely hurt lol.

[boliodogs]

I think he has a great chin. He has never been Knocked down even once in his pro career and he has fought some good punchers. How many other heavyweights in history have never been knocked down? He is still fighting and winning at 40 years of age.

[StarshipTrooper]

Boxing is the art of hitting & not getting hit. And was Hearns chin really that bad? A little shakey maybe but I think its overplayed.
He moved up through the weight classes & it held up pretty well, people forget the bombs he took from SRL over & over before finally crumbling in the 14th
Hagler, well Hagler hit like a damn mule.

I suppose it mainly comes from his stoppage loss to Barkley though I don't think his chin was bad as its labelled.

Vitali hits hard enough, I agree Wladimir is the far superior puncher of the two. For me probably one of the hardest punchers in history.

The idea that Hearns had a glass jaw is the biggest myth in boxing over the last 30 years. He got stopped by two ATG fighters who could punch and by one dude who was a Light-Heavy stripping down to Middle.

Poet

[boliodogs]

No shame there Hagler & Chuvalo had two of the best chins EVER!

I agree.I have been watching boxing since Patterson KOed Johansson and Hagler and Chuvalo had the best chins I ever saw. A fighter could have a chin of iron and still not have a chin as good as these two fighters.

[BKM-]

I guess I never really took into account how little Vitali has been hit hard in his career. But you can't deny the fact that Lewis hit him with his hardest right cross and uppercuts and he didn't go down.



Just look at the punches he took. Only a granite chin would have stayed standing and he did.

[Curtiz]

It's nothing like saying that.

A triangle theory is when you base fighter A beating fighter B on the fact that fighter A has beaten fighter C who has beaten fighter B.

In the heavyweight division there are very few fighters who haven't hit the canvas at some point. Vitali is one of them. For the most part his reputation for having a good chin is based on his fight against Lennox Lewis though:

A: Vitali has not hit the canvas yet
B : Many other fighters have
C: This means Vitali must have a good chin

It is the exact definition of a triangle theory sir.

My counter argument would be, vitali has not been hit cleanly throughout his career due to his size advantages & good defence which have 0 to do with your chins ability to take a blow.