Does Vitali really have a granite chin?

[Simurgh]

You can't really compare chins form the different weight divisions.
Chin durability doesn't scale linearly with the weight - it doesn't mean if you have an average 130 lbs and 250lbs fighter that the last takes punches twice as better or that he punches twice as stronger..
In the heavyweight it normally takes much less punches for the KO. Usually one clean power punch.

Vitali's chin is nothing less than granite - name one guy who would stay on his feet after that Lennox's uppercut.

I remember Chisora telling Vitali (in their face off) how he can't believe how he could took that punch.

Vitali doesn't need to be hit like that every second fight to be proved. That's ridiculous. Lennox, for example, didn't take too many heavy punches but he went straight down from that Rahman's one punch.

[FrankieBruno]

Vitali chin has never really been tested, when Lennox hit him with the uppercut he was holding on for dear life, before the fight was stopped cuz Vitali got the dog **** beat out of him

If Haye catches him it'll be lights out drago

[Curtiz]

When you take evidence such as the Lewis fight and the fact that Vitali has never been down (a rare feat in the heavyweight division, only matched by the likes of George Chuvalo and Oliver McCall), you have to admit that the man has the ability to take a punch better than most.

Even if it is only up to his size and defense (which are attributes that his brother also possess), we would still have to admit that he is durable and difficult to knockout, no different from saying that Floyd Mayweather is.

A weak triangle theory would be based on a single performance, such as saying that Vitali is tough because he lasted under Sanders's onslaught while Wladimir did not, but Vitali has proven his durability well enough at this stage over a long career.

I'd rather not use terms such as a "granite chin" as a well-timed punch can knock out almost any man and such terms are usually bestowed upon those who are too easy to hit for their own good. Durability is most important, not how many punches you can take before being stopped.

I'm sure Vitali himself would rather be known for a good defense than a granite chin, although I never thought his defense was that good.

Fair enough but all i could go off was your original post which was a triangle theory.

I think he has average/good chin.

[Curtiz]

You can't really compare chins form the different weight divisions.
Chin durability doesn't scale linearly with the weight - it doesn't mean if you have an average 130 lbs and 250lbs fighter that the last takes punches twice as better or that he punches twice as stronger..
In the heavyweight it normally takes much less punches for the KO. Usually one clean power punch.

Vitali's chin is nothing less than granite - name one guy who would stay on his feet after that Lennox's uppercut.

I remember Chisora telling Vitali (in their face off) how he can't believe how he could took that punch.

Vitali doesn't need to be hit like that every second fight to be proved. That's ridiculous. Lennox, for example, didn't take too many heavy punches but he went straight down from that Rahman's one punch.

It does if you count bone density into the equation which is most likely what we would be looking at in these scenarios.

If your talking about a middleweight that goes to heavyweight then thats a different story.

[stefl14]

You can't really compare chins form the different weight divisions.
Chin durability doesn't scale linearly with the weight - it doesn't mean if you have an average 130 lbs and 250lbs fighter that the last takes punches twice as better or that he punches twice as stronger..
In the heavyweight it normally takes much less punches for the KO. Usually one clean power punch.

Vitali's chin is nothing less than granite - name one guy who would stay on his feet after that Lennox's uppercut.

I remember Chisora telling Vitali (in their face off) how he can't believe how he could took that punch.

Vitali doesn't need to be hit like that every second fight to be proved. That's ridiculous. Lennox, for example, didn't take too many heavy punches but he went straight down from that Rahman's one punch.

You are right that chins don't scale linearly with weight but they certainly get a lot better. Your point about the uppercut isn't really valid as loads of fighters who are regarded as chinny have taken massive bombs at some point or another and managed to stand up. Besides, Vitali looked shook up in that fight from punches that looked less hurtful than that uppercut.

[Rain Dog]

I think it is genuinely hard to say just how good his chin is. He's been hit **** on by genuine punchers twice, and has wobbled on both occasions. The key thing for me is that he's known exactly what to do when hurt - he holds on for dear life or manages to get out of the way of the follow up. Sanders didn't floor Wlad first time he hurt him, but the younger Klitschko's lack of ring intelligence saw him flail and leave himself open to the punches which signalled the beginning of the end.

Vitali got hit a lot against Lewis, but Lennox was extremely tired by the time he really started landing.

When I think of a "granite" chin at HW, I think of Zeljko Mavrovic, which took an absolute pounding from Lewis over 12 rounds despite being a small heavyweight, or Ray Mercer who won't toe to toe over ten. Vitali's is hard to qualify because he usually has such an oddly effective defence.

[SPREAD]

Why is this up for debate, he obviously has a granite chin.

[SPREAD]

You can't really compare chins form the different weight divisions.
Chin durability doesn't scale linearly with the weight - it doesn't mean if you have an average 130 lbs and 250lbs fighter that the last takes punches twice as better or that he punches twice as stronger..
In the heavyweight it normally takes much less punches for the KO. Usually one clean power punch.

Vitali's chin is nothing less than granite - name one guy who would stay on his feet after that Lennox's uppercut. I remember Chisora telling Vitali (in their face off) how he can't believe how he could took that punch.

Vitali doesn't need to be hit like that every second fight to be proved. That's ridiculous. Lennox, for example, didn't take too many heavy punches but he went straight down from that Rahman's one punch.

Green Karma comment right there.

[Jedi Vader]

Lennox was hitting Holyfield with those same shots for 24 rounds, and not once did Holy look as pathetic as Vitali did in round 6 clinching for almost 2 mins.

Tyson was basically a deer in a cage, took twice as much punishment as Vitali and lasted 8 rounds without going down. Id say both Tyson and Holyfield have tougher chins than Vitali.

If you want to call Vitali the greatest defensive Heavyweight of all time, fine. But he needs to eat a 3-4 punch combination before he can have the chin argument.

Plus Tyson was at the end of his career whereas Vitali was in his prime.

[kill the body]

Solis, Johnson, Arreola, Johnson, Peter etc aren't worth mentioning?

Of course they aren't because its always a case of how these guys will beat the brothers and **** and when they lose they're dismissed as bums.

Look at Hayes resume, lmao!
Nobody on his entire resume worth a damn, not one.

Load of near 40yr old C level bums

lol hell no they are nobodies