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  • Light_Speed
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    #31
    Originally posted by FIGHTING_FLIP
    fight camp 360 > 24/7
    Only when they got 6 or 4 fighters. Fight camp with 2 fighters < 24/7.

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    • Bushbaby
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      #32
      Originally posted by Big Dunn
      Bushbaby you are so wrong about this. The business of boxing is giving us this fight. The sport of boxing would have Ward and Dawson fighting the best in their respective weight classes. HBO is using this fight to find its next young American star to utilize. This is the exat thing you ***** about Canelo and floyd/manny.

      We as fans benefit from this fight, no question. I'm looking forward to it. I just don't know how you can cosign this when you have been ranting about the business of boxing for months now. Why aren't you complaining about Dawson fighting a desreving 175lb fighter, or about Ward leaving Showtime and not fighting Bute?
      This fight is between the best fighters separated by a weight class. That's the sport talking. Bute?? Seriously?? Go advocate elsewhere, thanks bro.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #33
        Originally posted by Bushbaby
        This fight is between the best fighters separated by a weight class. That's the sport talking. Bute?? Seriously?? Go advocate elsewhere, thanks bro.
        So andre ward leaving showtime and going to HBO is the "sport" of boxing? Right. Chad moving down and fighting Ward instead of Pascal, who beat him, in a rematch is the "sport" of boxing?

        Please be consistent with your ranting.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #34
          I love this fight, but it is not PPV worthy.

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          • Bushbaby
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            #35
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            So andre ward leaving showtime and going to HBO is the "sport" of boxing? Right. Chad moving down and fighting Ward instead of Pascal, who beat him, in a rematch is the "sport" of boxing?

            Please be consistent with your ranting.
            Wasn't Pascal Cloud announced before Ward Dawson??

            Ward didn't fight Bute, who's beaten who, exactly??

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            • Rhyme 4 Rhyme
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              #36
              Originally posted by Atreyu Khalil
              Wtf? This fight is between 2 young champions who are number 1 in their divisions. 2 American fighters at the higher weights and they are in their respective primes. 2 guys with boxing skills and smarts but with polar opposite styles. This is a perfect clash of styles to make for an exciting fight a toe to toe battle because ward will force the fight that direction.
              I don't why you think that. None of Ward's past several fights have been entertaining in my opinion. Also, neither puncher has much power or is heavy handed, so the chances of a KO or even a knockdown aren't likely.

              Also, the fact that they are two young American fighters shouldn't have any impact on it IMO. HBO shouldn't try so hard to force the next young, American star. It's better when fighters become stars naturally, not by the hand of HBO.


              Originally posted by Bushbaby
              This fight isn't a fight for the casual fan, this fight is a fight for fight fans. These are the types of fights that need exposure. The best fighting the best. In this very tread I've explained what the business of boxing has gotten us.

              It's gotten us no Pacman-Floyd, but a lot of seperate fights between the 2 mostly against no-hopers.

              But the sport of boxing is giving us Ward-Dawson. The 2 best fighters of 2 weight classes fighting each other, these are the kind of matches fans need to support.
              You're saying fans need to support the fight, but at the same time you're saying it's not for most fans. I agree with that. Because of that, I don't feel HBO should invest their budget into marketing for a fight that is for a small group of fans.

              Originally posted by Ko King 212
              Yeah put 2 boxers on a 24/7 who don't speak any English. Yeah that way more entertaining.

              Foh...... Nothing interesting about Chavez or Sergio.
              I assume you didn't see the Cotto-Margarito faceoff or 24-7.

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              • Bushbaby
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                #37
                Originally posted by Rhyme 4 Rhyme
                I don't why you think that. None of Ward's past several fights have been entertaining in my opinion. Also, neither puncher has much power or is heavy handed, so the chances of a KO or even a knockdown aren't likely.

                Also, the fact that they are two young American fighters shouldn't have any impact on it IMO. HBO shouldn't try so hard to force the next young, American star. It's better when fighters become stars naturally, not by the hand of HBO.




                You're saying fans need to support the fight, but at the same time you're saying it's not for most fans. I agree with that. Because of that, I don't feel HBO should invest their budget into marketing for a fight that is for a small group of fans.



                I assume you didn't see the Cotto-Margarito faceoff or 24-7.
                I guess it all depends on what type of fan you consider yourself to be.

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                • StopBlocking
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                  #38
                  I appreciate the fight coverage but this couldn't have included two more BORING fighters.

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                  • Tmann400
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    Bushbaby you are so wrong about this. The business of boxing is giving us this fight. The sport of boxing would have Ward and Dawson fighting the best in their respective weight classes. HBO is using this fight to find its next young American star to utilize. This is the exat thing you ***** about Canelo and floyd/manny.

                    We as fans benefit from this fight, no question. I'm looking forward to it. I just don't know how you can cosign this when you have been ranting about the business of boxing for months now. Why aren't you complaining about Dawson fighting a deserving 175lb fighter, or about Ward leaving Showtime and not fighting Bute?
                    "Ward leaving Showtime and not fighting Bute" For one, let me get on this topic first. Why IN THE HELL, would Ward fight Bute now? Bute just got DESTROYED inside 5 rounds by the same guy Ward utterly outclassed and dominated. FOR ONE. FOR TWO, Bute is already getting a tune-up setup, and then his management and team want to exercise the rematch clause with Froch. So, your point is literally irrelevant and convoluted.

                    Ward has beaten pretty much every top super middleweight out there at the moment besides Dirrell, and Dirrell left the tournament and was out of boxing for a long time. Dawson, has beaten nearly everyone besides Pascal and Cloud, and low and behold, Pascal and Cloud have BEEN signed to fight and are scheduled to fight a month from today. So, what fight is better then this one?

                    Ward has cleaned out almost the entire SMW division. And, the only two top LHW's for Dawson to fight, are tied up fighting each other. So, what the hell is your point exactly? It really makes no sense. The only people who could POSSIBLY complain about a fight like this, have sour g****s about something, can't face the facts that Ward has been dominating everyone and since he's fighting such a tough fight they have nothing to complain about now. OR, your the true definition of a casual fan. And, honestly, who gives TWO F.UCKS about the casual fans perspective?! I mean, really guys?


                    The only people who can't appreciate elite boxing skills, and chess-matches are people with extremely low I.Q's. OR, they got the wrong idea of what boxing is REALLY about. Boxing is about different styles, and different styles clashing with each other. Here you have two guys with very good boxing skills, and two very different styles, AND, one is a southpaw and the other is primarily an orthodox fighter who switches. How much more interesting can you possibly get? Not to mention, they are BOTH the consensus best fighters in their respective divisions.


                    So, once again, how much better can you get? We haven't gotten a fight at this magnitude and level, and when we have, there's always been a catch weight or some ridiculous "silver" belt on the line. If anyone can't appreciate this fight, just go watch MMA or something for Christ's sake. Because you're OBVIOUSLY NOT a boxing fan, whatsoever. Everyone has their preferences. Who doesn't like a barnburner? Who doesn't like a ballroom brawl? BUT, that doesn't mean you can't appreciate different styles, and can't appreciate boxing at the elite level.

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                    • Tmann400
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Rhyme 4 Rhyme
                      I don't why you think that. None of Ward's past several fights have been entertaining in my opinion. Also, neither puncher has much power or is heavy handed, so the chances of a KO or even a knockdown aren't likely.

                      Also, the fact that they are two young American fighters shouldn't have any impact on it IMO. HBO shouldn't try so hard to force the next young, American star. It's better when fighters become stars naturally, not by the hand of HBO.




                      You're saying fans need to support the fight, but at the same time you're saying it's not for most fans. I agree with that. Because of that, I don't feel HBO should invest their budget into marketing for a fight that is for a small group of fans.



                      I assume you didn't see the Cotto-Margarito faceoff or 24-7.
                      Once again, your point is irrelevant. It's not just about what kind of fight happens inside the ring. It's about the skill level of the boxers, it's about where they're ranked in their divisions. It's about two fighters that have practically cleaned out their divisions facing each other. Ward is THE consensus best SMW in the world. Dawson, is THE consensus best LHW in the world. They both hold The Ring Championship in their divisions. A fight of THIS magnitude, at THIS level deserves to be on NONE other then HBO. NO ifs, ands, or buts about it, period.

                      We don't know what kind of fight will happen exactly, until they fight. Which, um, is the whole point of this fight happening. IF you can't appreciate this fight, then you might as well call yourself a causal fan. I'm not saying you should be jumping up and down for joy. But, you should naturally be able to appreciate a fight of this magnitude. Period,

                      You know, it's hilarious. I see people ***** on here ALL the time about how HBO caters to the casual fan, how us TRUE boxing fans don't get our fair shake etc. THEN, when HBO actually steps up and brings us a fight that DOES cater to true boxing fans and purists, we complain. TSk, tsk.

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