Is Tito Trinidad mentally weak or easily discouraged?

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I agree, but he DID have power at that weight. HE KNOCKED OUT MAYORGA, enough said.

It always amazes me how people want to make grand judgments of a fighter based on one fight. When Tito didn't beat Wright, it was said that he didn't have 160 punching power. IN a fight where he didn't get to land one clean power shot, how cna it be proved that he didn't have middleweight pop?

[machotime]

Eres Boricua, verdad? Bueno, lo que Hopkins hizo fue tirar la bandera al piso, no quemarla, a menos que lo digas en sentido figurado.

De todas formas, estamos de acuerdo en que Trinidad tenía ciertas destrezas que olvidó con el tiempo. Aún así, me parece que podría ganarse a unos cuantos en las 154 y 160 libras.

Tienes un punto, se podia ganar a muchos en las 154 y las 160, pero el boxeo que tenia Tito se agoto bastante. El poder era igual. Eso lo vimos con Mayorga, Joppy y Cherifi, pero el no se movia lateralmente y eso le causo problemas con Hopkins y con Winky.

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Exiter tiene NO punto.

Lateral movement had nothing to do with Tito's losses. Him taking punches and Hopkins being able to defend himself proved the problem.

Tienes un punto, se podia ganar a muchos en las 154 y las 160, pero el boxeo que tenia Tito se agoto bastante. El poder era igual. Eso lo vimos con Mayorga, Joppy y Cherifi, pero el no se movia lateralmente y eso le causo problemas con Hopkins y con Winky.

[gattifan24]

If the guys who make you look bad are Bernard Hopkins and Winky Wright, you have a lot of company

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Tito knocked out Mayorga... Mayorga has a granite chin. He was a good puncher at that weight.

I never stated he didnt have punch, that is evident since he knocked out Cherifi, Joppy(who had never been knocked out), and Mayorga. I just feel that he was much slower at 160. As a welter he was powerful and had hand speed, but at 160 he had significantly less hand speed but still had power.

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Winky isn't known for his speed either...

I never stated he didnt have punch, that is evident since he knocked out Cherifi, Joppy(who had never been knocked out), and Mayorga. I just feel that he was much slower at 160. As a welter he was powerful and had hand speed, but at 160 he had significantly less hand speed but still had power.

[Exciterx30]

Tienes un punto, se podia ganar a muchos en las 154 y las 160, pero el boxeo que tenia Tito se agoto bastante. El poder era igual. Eso lo vimos con Mayorga, Joppy y Cherifi, pero el no se movia lateralmente y eso le causo problemas con Hopkins y con Winky.

Eso es exactamente lo que creo. Winky era un oponente que Trinidad no necesitaba. Esa pelea fue un error, pero aún así, me gustaría ver a Trinidad de nuevo en el ring peleando por un título contra el que sea. No me importa si pelea contra algún campeón chancleta. En 154, Trinidad sería el #1.

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Tito didn't have to fight Winky? Yeah... he didnt have to fight him but the thing is he did and he lost. Who else would he have fought?

Eso es exactamente lo que creo. Winky era un oponente que Trinidad no necesitaba. Esa pelea fue un error, pero aún así, me gustaría ver a Trinidad de nuevo en el ring peleando por un título contra el que sea. No me importa si pelea contra algún campeón chancleta. En 154, Trinidad sería el #1.

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Exiter tiene NO punto.

Lateral movement had nothing to do with Tito's losses. Him taking punches and Hopkins being able to defend himself proved the problem.

Lateral movement had everything to do with his loss to Hopkins. How much do you know about boxing? If Tito implemented lateral movement he could have broken Hopkins D and avoided many punches. Hopkins stated it, "He doesn't know how to move laterally, he just stands in front of you". This is something that he did better as a welterweight but didn't do as at 160.

[Exciterx30]

Tito didn't have to fight Winky? Yeah... he didnt have to fight him but the thing is he did and he lost. Who else would he have fought?

Kassim Ouma or Felix Sturm would have been better stylistic matchups.