Greater win: Ali/Foreman or Leonard/Hager?

[BigAlexSand]

The fact Ali knocked Forman out... Goes to Ali.

[Bushbaby]

Controversial vs clear cut ko, hmmmmm........

[4Corners]

Ali over Foreman, because hardly anyone thought Ali had any chance going in. That edges it for me. Both are wins over ATG's and huge defining wins though.

[boliodogs]

Ali easily. I thought Hagler won the fight. Hagler offered Leonard a fight years before. Hagler was a great champion who fought the toughest challengers 3 or 4 times a year. Leanard waited for Hagler to slow down from all those hard fights while he sat on the sidelines. From what I read, Leonard stayed in shape and trained during those years with one goal in mind. That goal was to beat Hagler. Then Leonard refused to give Hagler a rematch. Anyone who knows Hagler's record knows he was deadly in rematches.

[IronDanHamza]

Ali clearly won


they Bradley'd Marvin

I actually thought the Leonard-Hagler fight was close and have never understood the huge outcry. Seems to have gotten much worse over the years.

I did have Hagler winning though.

And to the answer the question, It's Ali.

[IronDanHamza]

Ali over Foreman, because hardly anyone thought Ali had any chance going in. That edges it for me. Both are wins over ATG's and huge defining wins though.

Hardly anyone thought Leonard had any chance going in either.

[bojangles1987]

Ali-Foreman
Leonard didn't beat Hagler
fuck Leonard

Enough said.

[IronDanHamza]

I don't mean which was the better performance (cause that would be Ali since he KOed Foreman) but the better win.

You have Ali beating an undefeated, prime and seemingly indestructible Foreman and Leonard coming back after 5 years of retirement to go straight for Hagler without a tune up (Hagler hadn't lost in over 10 years).

In both fights, people feared for the safety of the eventual winners.

Was a 3 year retirement before the Hagler fight, not 5.

[MJ223]

I actually thought the Leonard-Hagler fight was close and have never understood the huge outcry. Seems to have gotten much worse over the years.

Legendary Nights maybe.?.?.?

[Silencers]

As mentioned already, Ali stopped Foreman whereas Leonard won a disputed decision.

But also, the public perception of Foreman at the time I think was greater than that of Hagler. He tore through the division and had 2 quick knock outs over 2 of the best heavyweights of the time, Norton and Frazier. 2 guys who gave Ali trouble so Foreman was considered invincible.

Whereas with Hagler, some people were beginning to think he had begun to lose a step or two following his war with Mugabi. SRL was also one of those people, he has said that was one of the reasons he took the fight. To me, that takes something away from it. He was basically admitting he fought Hagler when he thought Hagler was a little past his best.