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  • Kagami Taiga
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    #41
    Originally posted by Light_Speed
    You should know this by now : boxing is a business first, sport second. You're a Floyd fan right? "We're not fighting to prove to the fans who the best is, we try to make good business decisions" -Floyd Mayweather. I don't blame Floyd for not always fighting the best so I sure as hell ain't gonna blame Donaire. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

    And Donaire's weak fighters are still better than Rigo's best wins.


    LOL what are you talking about? He went to Japan and destroyed Hasegawa to establish himself as the bantamweight king. Fighting the number one guy and moving up is the easy route? It's funny because that's what Floyd did most of his career but you're not gonna blame him for that.

    The Arce fight is a cash grab. You know like Mares/Morel was. Donaire already earned his P4P spot. Detroyed the #1 guy at 112, Detroyed the #1 guy at 118, 3 division world champ, undefeated in title fights.
    ur still not getting the point. u say floyd says this like im his disciple. i was a fan of floyd wayyy before the money persona, and he fought guys much better than anyone donaire has fought even before the uttered those words. a fan shouldnt be sitting here saying its all about the money. screw the money, fight someone with a pulse. and sure he may have proved he was a p4p fighter in the past but wtf has he done since then to prove it? u dont hold on to a title based on what u do every 5 or 6 fights. thats pathetic. hes turning into a waste of talent and its sad to see boxing fans defending him, with the whole about the money line. he aint getting that much for mathebula, but yet hes still fighting him, rite? let him keep on chasing money fights, that doesnt make u one of the best in the sport, thats for sure.

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    • letsgobrady
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      #42
      didn't donaire say he didn't wanna fight rigondeaux because he was a boring fighter?

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      • JK1700
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        #43
        Originally posted by SoggyLungs
        donaire mentioned wanting to fight nishioka before all this rigo talk, but nishioka declined because he wanted to wait until late 2012 before he would be willing to fight anyone...so you can't blame donaire too much for that fight not happening. i'd definitely would like to see donaire vs nishioka more than a rigo fight tbh..
        That's irrelevant. The fight can still happen in the fall but it seems like Donaire would rather face Arce instead, which I think would be a very easy fight that wouldn't do much for his legacy at all. Arce has had a great career but he is one dimensional. I want to see Nonito against a slick boxer with power and versatility. Given how he's looked against his last two opponents who tried to box, I think Nishioka would have a great chance to beat him if they fought, and I think Donaire and Bob "I Have No Soul" Arum are well aware of this too.

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        • Kagami Taiga
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          #44
          Originally posted by letsgobrady
          didn't donaire say he didn't wanna fight rigondeaux because he was a boring fighter?
          he says something different every time hes asked about the guy

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          • brick wall
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            #45
            Originally posted by DempseyRollin
            floyds resume at 30>>>>>>>>>>>> than donaire. by donaires age, floyd was already a hofer and an atg. please stop it, dont expose ur ignorance.
            atg my ass
            atg with not a single hof'er in his resume at that age?

            and i wasn't comparing their resume nuthugger. i was talking about criticisms people had on floyd which you and other floyd fanatics are using on donaire.

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            • letsgobrady
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              #46
              Originally posted by DempseyRollin
              he says something different every time hes asked about the guy
              he does?thats funny but i do remember after the rico ramos win nonito saying he didn't want to fight rigo because he was boring.
              donaire is a great fighter but he has not done much since the darchinyan fight

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                #47
                Originally posted by brick wall
                atg my ass
                atg with not a single hof'er in his resume at that age?

                and i wasn't comparing their resume nuthugger. i was talking about criticisms people had on floyd which you and other floyd fanatics are using on donaire.
                i guess genaro hernandez aint ****

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                • Light_Speed
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by SoggyLungs
                  weren't they both top p4p fighters at the time that donaire stopped them? other than darchinyan and montiel donaire still has some nice wins on his resume..like hernan marquez (currently a highly ranked flyweight world champion), mthalane (another currently high ranked flyweight world champion), omar narvaez (was undefeated and a two weight world champion), sydorenko (good former amateur fighter who had only lost to one guy - moreno as a pro), and vazquez jr who is a former champion with only one loss and still in his prime and was ranked in the top ten best sbw at the time...mathebula isn't known too well but he is the IBF world champion and the #6 best sbw...and apparently lost a controversial decision to caballero.
                  I don't think Darchi was in the top 10 but wouldn't surprise me if he was.

                  And yeah if you look closely at Donaire's resume it's a lot deeper than people think.

                  Originally posted by SoggyLungs
                  donaire mentioned wanting to fight nishioka before all this rigo talk, but nishioka declined because he wanted to wait until late 2012 before he would be willing to fight anyone...so you can't blame donaire too much for that fight not happening. i'd definitely would like to see donaire vs nishioka more than a rigo fight tbh..
                  And this fight has a good chance of happening because Arum has a good relationship with Nishioka's promoter. They co-promoted the Nishioka vs Marquez event and Arum said he would love to have Nishioka come back in the US to fight one of his guys.

                  Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                  ur still not getting the point. u say floyd says this like im his disciple. i was a fan of floyd wayyy before the money persona, and he fought guys much better than anyone donaire has fought even before the uttered those words
                  When Floyd uttered those words his best wins were : Hernandez, Corrales, Castillo and Judah. I don't think either of these guys was in the top 10 P4P when he fought them but correct me if I'm wrong.

                  Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                  a fan shouldnt be sitting here saying its all about the money. screw the money, fight someone with a pulse. and sure he may have proved he was a p4p fighter in the past but wtf has he done since then to prove it? u dont hold on to a title based on what u do every 5 or 6 fights. thats pathetic. hes turning into a waste of talent and its sad to see boxing fans defending him, with the whole about the money line. he aint getting that much for mathebula, but yet hes still fighting him, rite? let him keep on chasing money fights, that doesnt make u one of the best in the sport, thats for sure.
                  It IS all about the money. Do I like it? No but I'm mature enough to understand and accept the reality, you're not.

                  LOL that's because Mathebula ain't worth much. It's not about how much money you make for one fight, it's about how much money you think you deserve for fighting a certain opponent AKA risk/reward ratio. Come on man, how long have you been following this sport? You should know that shit.
                  Last edited by Light_Speed; 06-27-2012, 02:31 PM.

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                  • DoktorSleepless
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                    #49
                    Boxing Scene gets excited over Ward-Dawson and Donaire-Rigo. Thank god hardcore boxing fans aren't matchmakers.

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                    • brick wall
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by letsgobrady
                      i guess genaro hernandez aint ****
                      **** as in hof'er? yeah he aint.

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