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  • Originally posted by Nekeneg View Post
    Dude... that's like saying IF Cotto knocks out Mayweather then he will win, well DUH. Sure, but the question is how do you go about doing that. You make it sound so easy, it's not. Mayweather is not just going to stand in front of Cotto and let you knock him out, that's where skill comes into play. And Mayweather's skills is levels above Cotto's. You're saying as long as Matthyse handles Pac's speed and power then he can beat Pacquiao is ridiculous, you're underestimating Pac way too much, Pac is not all about speed and power. He is also very accurate with his punches, and has a very underrated defense.
    I didn't think Bradley would be able to go 12 rounds with Pac. I thought Pac would knock his ass out if he exchanged.

    Damn, how I was wrong. I won't make that mistake again.

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    • IF Amir Khan can walk thru floyd's punches and hit floyd before floyd get's the opportunity to counter then khan beats mayweather.

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      • Originally posted by AndNewChampion View Post
        You ever seen Matthyse fight? His jab is one of his best tools you fool.

        Plus Soto actually jabbed him very well the first 2 rounds and thus won.

        Oh and who is Soto? He is a 135 fighter. He hasn't got a really good resume at all. He is OK.

        Pac is on another level to Soto, by 2 or 3.


        I know his jabs good, precisely the point I was trying to make. That said Soto also has a very good jab where as Manny simply put, doesn't.

        Who cares what weight class he came from when he was a kid? He debuted at 118 about 15 or more years ago, people/fighters grow!
        He had good success through all the weights and outgrew them much like Manny did.
        Lets not make out Soto wasn't comfortable at 140, he was undefeated at the weight & has fought at 140 for some time now!
        I can only presume Lucas gets less credit by your logic seeing he didn't fight him at a catchweight

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        • If Soto was so bad and all this rubbish then it says an awful lot considering Manny ducked him all those years!

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          • Originally posted by johncods View Post
            IF Amir Khan can walk thru floyd's punches and hit floyd before floyd get's the opportunity to counter then khan beats mayweather.
            It's all ifs... these Matthys bandwagoners trying to argue with their ifs arguments, crazy.
            Last edited by Nekeneg; 11-19-2012, 08:45 PM.

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            • Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
              I didn't think Bradley would be able to go 12 rounds with Pac. I thought Pac would knock his ass out if he exchanged.

              Damn, how I was wrong. I won't make that mistake again.
              So did that somewhat diminish your view of pac as a fighter?

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              • Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
                Lucus is a damn good fighter who has been robbed twice. He hits very hard but not harder than Pacquiao in my opinion. He went 12 rounds with Judah and it took him a long time and I think 8 knock downs to finish Corley. I can't see Judah lasting 12 rounds with Pacquiao and I don't think Pacquiao would need 8 knock downs to finish Corley. Pacquiao can still beat anyone at 147 that slugs it out with him in my opinion. He may be slowing down but he is still excellent.

                Hardly anybody stops the veteran in Chop chop Corley, Lucas beat him as convincingly as anybody ever has and is one of only very few to stop him.

                Pacquaio definitely noway hits as hard as Lucas. Sorry but just no!

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                • Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
                  Apart from Guzman I think he does.
                  Who is actually at 140 that can beat him?
                  Vazquez gets laced, Khan gets put in a bodybag, Alvarado gets beaten to death.
                  Rios is a clown, Garcia isn't worth mentioning.

                  Only fighter I can think of apart Guzman standing a chance is Prescott actually until he gasses.
                  Marquez would ice him, a Maidana fight would be a toss up, Peterson would probably lose but he would be game.

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                  • Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
                    If Soto was so bad and all this rubbish then it says an awful lot considering Manny ducked him all those years!
                    I'll tell you what, these Pac fans are freaking crazy man lol

                    Before Pac fought Bradley and Marquez, I said Pac would either soundly beat or KO both guys. I was told by Pac fans that I was discrediting Pac by implying he's taking easy fights.

                    Pac doesn't do so well in either fight and those same guys say that I was right in my pre-fight predictions lol

                    Now, I actually think that Pac possibly loses if he doesn't fight the perfect fight and now I'm a Pac hater lol

                    Some people in Pac's fans base are really delusional, sensitive and for lack of better words, "CRAZY".

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                    • Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
                      I didn't think Bradley would be able to go 12 rounds with Pac. I thought Pac would knock his ass out if he exchanged.

                      Damn, how I was wrong. I won't make that mistake again.
                      That's what makes this sport so exciting, its unpredictable. Who would have thought Ortiz would lose to Lopez the way he did. He was way ahead of the scorecards, you'd think Ortiz would take it. I mean, sure Lopez can still win IF he KO Ortiz right. But he didn't and Ortiz quit.

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