Lucas Mattyhsse vs Manny Pacquiao

[dan_cov]

You'd give him a shot? Really? You think he would stand a chance against this beast? Wow you're being too generous, Matthysse was competitive with Judah and Alexander while JMM is only a top 3 P4P fighter.

I am going more off Marquez most recent fight which I didn't think he looked fantastic in. The guy is getting on up there in age and to me looks to be on the decline.

I don't want to discredit Marquez because I like him but the guys clearly on the slide though stylistically he'll always have Pacs number.

I just think Lucas is too much for him at this stage of his career.

[johncods]

Ok, you don't think Mathysse has a chance because "no one", I mean no one can handle Pac's speed and power. Even if they did handle his speed and power, they wouldn't really handle his speed and power, I get it.

You don't think Lucas can do it. Ok, that's fine. I doubt that he can also, but IF (very possible) he will stop Pac or beat him.

Did I say matthyse doesn't have chance? Of course he does. But your reasoning is he can beat pac IF he can take pac's power and speed. The **** is that analysis? Pac has a proven track record of messing guys up who come to fight and is there to be hit. How about analyzing their styles.

[BoxingGenius27]

Did I say matthyse doesn't have chance? Of course he does. But you reasoning is he can beat pac IF he can take pac's power and speed. The **** kind reasoning is that?

Have you ever seen boxing analysis and boxing commentators give keys to fights before each fight for the past 100 years or so?

I'm breaking down the fight and giving the keys to victory for each guy.

At the end of my assessment, I tell you what the what the other guy has to do to win. Then I tell you if I think it's possible or not.

What's wrong with that?

[BoxingGenius27]

Did I say matthyse doesn't have chance? Of course he does. But your reasoning is he can beat pac IF he can take pac's power and speed. The **** is that analysis? Pac has a proven track record of messing guys up who come to fight and is there to be hit. How about analyzing their styles.

No matter what I say, it won't be enough for you.

Let's try this one more time. If Mathysse can take it just as good as he can give it, Pac WILL lose this fight.

If he can't take it as good as he can give it, he will LOSE this fight.

I can't get any more simple man.

If you disagree, then cool, but you're like a cat chasing his tail here.

The only thing I disagree with you about is when you say stuff like "it's impossible for Mathysse" to fight toe to toe or HAS anyone taken Pac's power, yada yada yada.

Dude, does Pac hit as hard as Kendall Holt or doesn't he?

Pac has been really weird for his last 2 fights. It makes me think that he's finally trying to fight clean or something. I don't know. But either Tim Bradley is the fcking man, or Pac is coming off his steroid high.

I don't know what's going on. Since that seems to be the case here, I'm giving Mathysse a damn good shot in this fight.

[johncods]

Have you ever seen boxing analysis and boxing commentators give keys to fights before each fight for the past 100 years or so?

I'm breaking down the fight and giving the keys to victory for each guy.

At the end of my assessment, I tell you what the what the other guy has to do to win. Then I tell you if I think it's possible or not.

What's wrong with that?

" if lucas can take pac's punches, he's gonna beat pac " yea that's some kind of assessment there buddy. pac who has fought much better fighters is suppose to crumble under matthyse power if he can't hurt him? LOL

Like i said how about looking in past fights? How did fighters do when they brought the fight to pac?

[BoxingGenius27]

" if lucas can take pac's punches, he's gonna beat pac " yea that's some kind of assessment there buddy. pac who has fought much better fighters is suppose to crumble under matthyse power if he can't hurt him? LOL

Like i said how about looking in past fights? How did fighters do when they brought the fight to pac?

Dude, that whole mistic about getting KTFO while bringing the fight to Pac aura is over. Do you hear me? Done, finished; fineto.

Rounds 7-12 for Bradley-Pac killed that whole theory.

Bradley brought the fight to Pac, pressed the action and went toe to toe with him and didn't have 1 mark on his face. Pac even connected flush, but couldn't do what Kendall Holt did which is drop Bradley. If you want to look at past fights for answers, look at this one. Don't just see what you want to see.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Dude, that whole mistic about getting KTFO while bringing the fight to Pac aura is over. Do you hear me? Done, finished; fineto.

Rounds 7-12 for Bradley-Pac killed that whole theory.

Bradley brought the fight to Pac, pressed the action and went toe to toe with him and didn't have 1 mark on his face. Pac even connected flush, but couldn't do what Kendall Holt did which is drop Bradley. If you want to look at past fights for answers, look at this one. Don't just see what you want to see.

Pacquiao has lost that aura due to his decline, but it takes upper body movement and head movement to avoid Pacquiao's punches, similar to what Bradley displayed. Matthysse's defense is underrated, I've come to learn that now, but simply blocking isn't gonna neutralize Pacquiao's explosiveness. By the way I am in agreement with you to large extent but I don't think Matthysse is that dude.

[BoxingGenius27]

Pacquiao has lost that aura due to his decline, but it takes upper body movement and head movement to avoid Pacquiao's punches, similar to what Bradley displayed. Matthysse's defense is underrated, I've come to learn that now, but simply blocking isn't gonna neutralize Pacquiao's explosiveness. By the way I am in agreement with you to large extent but I don't think Matthysse is that dude.

There were times when Bradley didn't even move. He just went toe to toe with Pac and slugged it out. No head movement at all; but lived to fight another round.

[Doctor_Tenma]

There were times when Bradley didn't even move. He just went toe to toe with Pac and slugged it out. No head movement at all; but lived to fight another round.

No doubt, at times I did say Bradley was lucky not to have gotten caught, but I think that was due to having two bad feet.

[johncods]

Dude, that whole mistic about getting KTFO while bringing the fight to Pac aura is over. Do you hear me? Done, finished; fineto.

Rounds 7-12 for Bradley-Pac killed that whole theory.

Bradley brought the fight to Pac, pressed the action and went toe to toe with him and didn't have 1 mark on his face. Pac even connected flush, but couldn't do what Kendall Holt did which is drop Bradley. If you want to look at past fights for answers, look at this one. Don't just see what you want to see.

So you really are basing it off pac-bradley. What don't you understand? Styles make fights. Bradley has great head movement. He is leaps and bounds better than matthyse defensively. Matthyse fights one way, he takes one to land one and he is very effective but it's been proven time and again that that style doesn't work with pac.

Bradley showed great defense. He brawled with pac in spurts but most of the fight he used movement.