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  • Kagami Taiga
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    #71
    Originally posted by _original_
    I might get some hate for this, but I'm just waiting for the day Manny's steroid use comes to light.
    if he used to used, which is entirely possible, we must all admit the truth, i doubt he uses anymore.

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    • americanbot
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      #72
      Originally posted by DempseyRollin
      they test pretty heavily for martial arts competition, they probably have the best system set up. the us's system is very fragmented and a free for all. look at the **** texas does. no better than a third world country.
      I'm in texas.........& the boxing commission here is the dirtiest in the entire untied states...........I don't put texas with other commissions in the united states because it's literally in a league of it's own.

      I know about japan as far as MMA (i was a kick boxer) & I've always known that they didn't test their MMA fighters. thats why i wondered if it was different with their boxers...........
      Last edited by americanbot; 06-22-2012, 03:44 PM.

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      • RSBonos
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        #73
        Originally posted by WESS
        And this is why I said years ago just how bad PAC will look for refusing to test. Of to mention he has yet to test outside the standards of the commission.
        Tarver even managed to fail the weak ass standard testing. Anyone with half a brain can pass the regular tests.

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          #74
          japan has never tested it's MMA fighters

          http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/pri...-japan-698265/

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          • Kagami Taiga
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            #75
            Originally posted by DempseyRollin
            seems ur rite, they dont test really in mma and k-1. but was pretty sure i read somewhere that they were in the process of setting up a nationwide regulatory body for all martial arts back in like 08 or 09. guess that was all hot air.

            the japanese marital arts federation is what i was thinking of. but i it seems they renegged on the testing because it was too expensive...smh.

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              #76
              Originally posted by DempseyRollin
              if he used to used, which is entirely possible, we must all admit the truth, i doubt he uses anymore.
              I doubt he's on it anymore if he ever used as well, but somebody from that camp if bound to talk one day (assuming the steroid accusations were true to begin with).

              Chavez Jr. is one I think we're all certain of. Hell he's already been caught with a masking agent, refuses testing, fights in Texas, ect.

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                #77
                this is what i mean by other countries literally not testing or even caring..............

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                  #78
                  Tarver did have a ******* addiction before boxing turned his life around so him being positive for something like weed or coke could be possible. hope it's not PED's for his sake

                  yea that UCLA lab gets the job done. this was just a regular state commission test but it's the same facility as the OST agencies. People blaming VADA and USADA as companies looking to make a profit off positive tests or whatever are also indicting other medical professionals who have no personal affiliation whatsoever with those two agencies. They are just chemists, lab technicians, interns, etc who aren't going to get paid extra for bring positives to light.

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                    #79
                    I really don't understand why weed and coke and recreational drugs like that are even banned. It's not like they're gonna give the fighter any advantage, it's going to hurt them more than benefit them. I guess just to maintain a "clean" sport.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                      seems ur rite, they dont test really in mma and k-1. but was pretty sure i read somewhere that they were in the process of setting up a nationwide regulatory body for all martial arts back in like 08 or 09. guess that was all hot air.
                      It could have been amateur sports, like mentioned before with Judo & Karate.

                      But for pro martial arts there was/is no testing in Japan. All the Pride & K-1 legends were on it (but honestly most UFC fighters are on it too since the commission testing is a joke in America). I don't think the pro boxing commission in Japan has the $ to do testing like the organized amateur associations (im just guessing).

                      Either way, in the end Olympic and cycling athletes are the most tested in the world and they still cheat all the time. There is no way to clean any sport where money is involved.

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