Who could Mayweather have beaten to "prove" his greatness to naysayers?

[Chuckguy]

Zahir Raheem, Ponce de leon and Guzman are the only ones I can possibly think of

but he was already moving up in weight. So that's hard to argue.

i never said he ducked anyone, my point was just that those fights were there, and they would have elevated floyds resume much, much higher had he taken and beaten those fighters

It's pretty much the same thing just worded different.

[Brother Jay]

The formula is in full effect. Just throw out names of guys he didn't fight.

The reason they wouldn't fight him is because he wasn't a cash cow back then. He was too much risk, no reward!

Notice how no one would touch this ^^^.

[Paclan]

It's pretty much the same thing just worded different.

What are you talking about.

Floyd wasn't moving up in weight when he avoided his own division to fight smaller guys.

[SplitSecond]

It's pretty much the same thing just worded different.

alot of posters not making any sense today....

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

REAL boxing fans appreciate the greatness of Mayweather. I don't like him as a person but as a boxer he's the best I have ever seen hands down.

BUT............

As a person he turns people off and his decisions of not making the toughest fight when it was available is what fans don't like about him.

[Brother Jay]

REAL boxing fans appreciate the greatness of Mayweather. I don't like him as a person but as a boxer he's the best I have ever seen hands down.

BUT............

As a person he turns people off and his decisions of not making the toughest fight when it was available is what fans don't like about him.

Aside from Mayweather's attitude, cannot the same be said about every fighter?

[4Corners]

What people don't realize is that Tszyu wasn't his fault. He wanted to fight Tszyu, and that fight was suppose to happen after Mayweather-Gatti and Tszyu-Hatton. Tszyu lost to Hatton, who Mayweather tried to fight right after that, and eventually fought in 2007 when Hatton was #8 P4P.

I've always felt Margarito was the only one Floyd may have found a way around. I think by 2006 Floyd knew he was in line to fight Oscar De La Hoya, and found a way around fighting Margarito. Still, Floyd fought Mosley who stopped Margarito.

And Floyd also wanted to fight Msoley in 2005-2006, but it was Shane who came up with all the excuses to not fight Floyd. It probably had something to do with Shane's boss, Oscar, getting the first crack at Floyd. Anyways, Floyd-Mosley happened when Shane had stopped Margarito, who was the "man" at 147, and when Shane was the WBA WW champ/#2 WW/#3 P4P, and when everyone wanted to see it.

And as far as Cotto, if stans are sitting here giving Pac credit for beating a past prime-still good Cotto at 145, Floyd should get his due for beating a past prime-still good Cotto at 154. Cotto hasn't been prime since 2008, but he's still been good since 2009 no doubt. And Floyd wanted to fight Cotto during his absolute prime in 2005-2006. It was Top Rank who openly said "Cotto isn't ready for Floyd". Only when Floyd had left Top Rank and talked up retiring after the Oscar and Hatton fights, did anyone start the Floyd avoided Cotto thing. The fight happened anyway when Cotto was still good and at 154, and as soon as Cotto left Top Rank. That's no coincidence.

And of course Pac and Floyd both need each other at 147. But that's how I see it.

[therealpugilist]

well was i right or was i right?

TS trying to pass himself off as some neutral, knowledgeable, "honest" boxing fan, instead what we have seen from this guy is nothing but Floyd fluffing & pac hatin.

Just to answer this pathetic leave floyd alone thread,

At 135

Stevie Johnston
Joel Casamayor
Leonard Dorin
Acelino Freitas
Paul Spadafora

He fights Jose Luis Castillo 2x, Victoriano Sosa, & Phillip Ndou instead.

At 140

Kostay Tszyu
Ricky Hatton
Miguel Cotto
Vivian Harris

He fights Demarcus Corley, Henry Bruselles, & Arturo Gatti instead.

At 147 (this is gonna be good)

Younger Shane Mosley
Miguel Cotto
Antonio Margarito
Paul Williams
Joshua Clottey
Luis Collazo
Kermit Cintron
& now Manny Pacquiao

He fights Sharmba Mitchell, Carlos Baldomir, Zab Judah, Ricky Hatton, & Juan Manuel Marquez instead.

At 154

Corey Spinks
Roman Karmazin
Vernon Forrest
Winky Wright

He fights Old Oscar instead. (cant really blame him but he still didnt fight the top guys). He started talking noise about fighting winky then when it was time to finally sign he backed off & started making excuses.

Sound familiar?



Side note: Fraudlent Mayweather Jr. was a 130 up until 11-10-2001. One division below him 126 had fighters named;

Erik Morales
Marco Antonio Barerra
Manny Pacquiao
Naseem Hamed
Juan Manuel Marquez

Somehow, everybody finds a way to duck him, the self proclaimed face of boxing & cash cow. Why would they want to do that?

Man I been watching boxing for over 20 years and actually been in the ring i dont have to pass myself off as anything

I asked an honest question. Only thing you did was throw a bunch of names out their but didnt explain how they would have helped or elevated his resume

As for those he could have fought below 130...none of those guys were clamoring for a fight with him, only one that showed some interest was Naz in the late 90's but it never happened. None of those guys you mentioned even hinted at moving up until Mayweather moved up to lightweight.

Mayweather was with Top Rank and wanted fights with Freitas and Casamayor at 130 but they didnt materialize he couldnt make the weight anymore and he moved up to fight Castillo


You have to be a complete idiot if you think beating Vivian Harris, Luis Collazo, Kermit Cintron, and Joshua Clottey would have enhanced his resume and legacy....he has beaten fighters better than them and Cotto and Hatton wasnt even ready to fight him when he was at 140, thats not his fault he still went on to beat them so whats the point?

[Chuckguy]

What are you talking about.

Floyd wasn't moving up in weight when he avoided his own division to fight smaller guys.

Yeah ok I'll leave it at that. I guess u r ok with PAC fighting someone at 147 then fight at a catchweight then at 147 again. Even though he could have fought all 3 at147 but just come in lighter himself.

[SpeedKillz]

What people don't realize is that Tszyu wasn't his fault. He wanted to fight Tszyu, and that fight was suppose to happen after Mayweather-Gatti and Tszyu-Hatton. Tszyu lost to Hatton, who Mayweather tried to fight right after that, and eventually fought in 2007 when Hatton was #8 P4P.

I've always felt Margarito was the only one Floyd may have found a way around. I think by 2006 Floyd knew he was in line to fight Oscar De La Hoya, and found a way around fighting Margarito. Still, Floyd fought Mosley who stopped Margarito.

And Floyd also wanted to fight Msoley in 2005-2006, but it was Shane who came up with all the excuses to not fight Floyd. It probably had something to do with Shane's boss, Oscar, getting the first crack at Floyd. Anyways, Floyd-Mosley happened when Shane had stopped Margarito, who was the "man" at 147, and when Shane was the WBA WW champ/#2 WW/#3 P4P, and when everyone wanted to see it.

And as far as Cotto, if stans are sitting here giving Pac credit for beating a past prime-still good Cotto at 145, Floyd should get his due for beating a past prime-still good Cotto at 154. Cotto hasn't been prime since 2008, but he's still been good since 2009 no doubt. And Floyd wanted to fight Cotto during his absolute prime in 2005-2006. It was Top Rank who openly said "Cotto isn't ready for Floyd". Only when Floyd had left Top Rank and talked up retiring after the Oscar and Hatton fights, did anyone start the Floyd avoided Cotto thing. The fight happened anyway when Cotto was still good and at 154, and as soon as Cotto left Top Rank. That's no coincidence.

And of course Pac and Floyd both need each other at 147. But that's how I see it.

good post!