From 2005 to 2009 who had a tougher run than Jermain Taylor?

[RlCKY]

All[except for Lacy]were top 10 in their division when Taylor fought them, no rest.

1. Bernard Hopkins
2. Bernard Hopkins
3. Winky Wright
4. Kassim Ouma
5. Cory Spinks
6. Kelly Pavlik
7. Kelly Pavlik
8. Jeff Lacy
9. Carl Froch
10. Arthur Abraham

The records of the fighters and how dangerous they were at the time is what makes the list more impressive although he lost some of those. Pavlik, Froch and Abraham were all undefeated powerful top fighters, very dangerous fights. Winky Wright hadn't lost since 1999 coming in. Bernard Hopkins hadn't lost in 12 years, which was to a top 30 ATG Roy Jones Jr in 1993. Ouma was a top 10 MW. And Lacy who was the worst one had only one, very embarrassing loss to a HOF'er in Joe Calzaghe. But i'm not hyping up Lacy as a great opponent though.

What a warrior Jermain Taylor is. I hope he continues on his bounce back trail and becomes a top 10 fighter once again. When he's hot, as you can see he would fight the best and most dangerous fighters.

Ouma and Lacy are the only clear wins there. Ouma never fought at middleweight and Lacy, well, you said it yourself he isn't that great.

All the other fights he either lost or barely won. So it doesn't really matter what kind of "run" he had if the end result was what it ended up being.

I don't know how that can be considered anything more than the exact opposite of what you are suggesting it is

[RlCKY]

Floyd had a better run in that time period that included Marquez hatton de la Hoya and judah. Hell even throw baldomir, say what you want about him he just beat the last undisputed champ at 147.

All of those are fights he won. You could argue that Taylor was 3-7 over that stretch. So who cares about who he was fighting if he wasn't winning and winning big

[ballgamessuck]

Floyd had a better run in that time period that included Marquez hatton de la Hoya and judah. Hell even throw baldomir, say what you want about him he just beat the last undisputed champ at 147.

All of those are fights he won. You could argue that Taylor was 3-7 over that stretch. So who cares about who he was fighting if he wasn't winning and winning big

What the hell does this thread have to do with Floyd?

[crold1]

All[except for Lacy]were top 10 in their division when Taylor fought them, no rest.

1. Bernard Hopkins
2. Bernard Hopkins
3. Winky Wright
4. Kassim Ouma
5. Cory Spinks
6. Kelly Pavlik
7. Kelly Pavlik
8. Jeff Lacy
9. Carl Froch
10. Arthur Abraham

The records of the fighters and how dangerous they were at the time is what makes the list more impressive although he lost some of those. Pavlik, Froch and Abraham were all undefeated powerful top fighters, very dangerous fights. Winky Wright hadn't lost since 1999 coming in. Bernard Hopkins hadn't lost in 12 years, which was to a top 30 ATG Roy Jones Jr in 1993. Ouma was a top 10 MW. And Lacy who was the worst one had only one, very embarrassing loss to a HOF'er in Joe Calzaghe. But i'm not hyping up Lacy as a great opponent though.

What a warrior Jermain Taylor is. I hope he continues on his bounce back trail and becomes a top 10 fighter once again. When he's hot, as you can see he would fight the best and most dangerous fighters.

It was a solid run and one appreciated more at the end. The debates on the Hopkins fights (I had JT losing and drawing in that order) and Wright (I had Taylor eeking it out or a draw...have to look it up) got him off to a rough start. Ouma was NOT a top ten MW and neither it or Spinks (I thought he lost to Spinks at the time in a God awful fight) weren't good performances but in retrospect good foes between beasts.

Taylor was a limited guy who was well protected early and had giant balls in matchmaking once he arrived. Fine example of not judging the cake until it's baked. He might not always have won, but he always showed up. Never had the sort of single, impressive win he needed to put doubts to rest but quality of foes, and making the most of what he had, earned respect.

[jrosales13]

What the hell does this thread have to do with Floyd?

The thread specifically asked who had a toughter run from 2005-2009 than Taylor. The poster believes Floyd run was tougher...

This thread has everything to do with JT and whoever anyone feels had a tougher run.

[Atreyu Khalil]

I remain steadfast in my belief that if JT would've stayed focused and @ 160 he would've gone down atleast as one of the best in his era. He had all the tools and began regressing

COme on son......let's be real

[crold1]

You did not mention it, but it was mentioned. Despite the title clearly stating from 2005-2009.

And even though it wasn't mentioned, Froch's resume should be mentioned because his resume from 2008-2012 rivals Taylor's resume from 2005-2009.

Froch's resume is superior because of results. Resume is bolstered by results. He has one clear loss, one close one, one ugly win, and five really good, crowd pleasing, clear wins.

As to 05-09, Pacquiao probably comes closest but he had some lull fights like Velasquez and Diaz. Taylor's overall run in terms of quality was beastly.

I remain steadfast in my belief that if JT would've stayed focused and @ 160 he would've gone down atleast as one of the best in his era. He had all the tools and began regressing

He really didn't and that was the problem. He never stopped being stiff and robotic, was terrible at making adjustments, struggled with consistent accuracy and lacked a certain mental toughness in the ring. He was unfairly labeled as 'athletic' when limited athleticism in terms of coordination and fluidity were liabilities were always issues.

He stayed focused. He just only had so much upside and the hype overwhelmed that. He got a ton out of speed, strength, and tenacity. He's really an overachiever.

[Atreyu Khalil]

What the hell does this thread have to do with Floyd?

Well have you read the title of the thread?
Please

[Atreyu Khalil]

Ouma and Lacy are the only clear wins there. Ouma never fought at middleweight and Lacy, well, you said it yourself he isn't that great.

All the other fights he either lost or barely won. So it doesn't really matter what kind of "run" he had if the end result was what it ended up being.

I don't know how that can be considered anything more than the exact opposite of what you are suggesting it is

Yes this

[MARKBNLV]

Whats up today first me and speed go at it for 8 pages now Kev and Annie nsb is acting like the dome today lol.