From 2005 to 2009 who had a tougher run than Jermain Taylor?
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his featherweight run was a run.
From Barrera to Marquez to Morales. Nobody has fought a schedule that hard.
This isn't froch's 168 run, these are some of the best featherweights of all time. All 3 are top 50 atgLast edited by Paclan; 06-02-2012, 05:19 AM.Comment
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Yeah, but my point is, he had some other opponents in that run, like Asscan Flat Battery. The run as depicted by yourself wasn't all-inclusive.
It's why others are seemingly confused in this thread, talking about how Wanky and Hopkins are better than other guys... they didn't wholly encompass the run described, and that must be factored in. If I fight six guys are two of them aren't elite, it's not, by definition, an elite run. Dig?
And I didn't even MENTION Carl Froch in my reply.Comment
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Very good points. Too often, I think, a fighter gets called athletic if they display a bit of speed and explosivity, when true athleticism covers much more than that. Taylor had quite a few attributes that made him dangerous in the early rounds and against certain types of fighters, but he was never really able to improve beyond a certain point once he reached the top. Poor stamina as well, which is an athletic attribute.He really didn't and that was the problem. He never stopped being stiff and robotic, was terrible at making adjustments, struggled with consistent accuracy and lacked a certain mental toughness in the ring. He was unfairly labeled as 'athletic' when limited athleticism in terms of coordination and fluidity were liabilities were always issues.
He stayed focused. He just only had so much upside and the hype overwhelmed that. He got a ton out of speed, strength, and tenacity. He's really an overachiever.
I'm not sure I'd say Taylor lacked mental toughness, though he tended to back off when he was hurt. He fought in the trenches when he had to, boxed when he had to, and was never to my knowledge intimidated in a fight to the point when he got shut outComment
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My argument was the "run" should be based on the outcome of the fights and not the opponents themselves neccessarily. Anybody can get in the ring with the fighters Taylor did from 2005-2009. However the result was not impressive.
I get it that it says tougher run and not better run, but a tough run doesn't mean ****, when you don't look good.
I thought Hopkins won the first fight, so IMO Taylor went 1-1-1 against Hopkins and Winky.Comment
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I've always said this much, but people on here HATED Taylor when he was champion. I think some people never got over the fact that he ended B-Hop's streak. But there's no way in hell Hopkins has a claim to winning either of those fights. He did absolutely nothing for 7 of the first 8 rounds in the first fight. You can't win a fight by only winning 5 rounds unless you score some KDs or get points deducted from the opponent.
He also beat Wright in my opinion. At best, Winky could have gotten a draw, which is what he got.
I thought Taylor was a fine champion. He just didn't knock *****z out, but so what?Comment

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