From 2005 to 2009 who had a tougher run than Jermain Taylor?

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  • !! Anorak
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    #61
    Originally posted by Paclan
    Easily Pacquiao. The fact that nobody mentioned him and his legendary featherweight run makes me doubt every single one of you's validity as boxing fans.

    -Morales
    -Barrera
    -Marquez
    -Hatton
    -Cotto
    That's not a "run" though, is it? There were lesser opponents in there for Ping Ping.

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    • Paclan
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      #62
      Originally posted by !! Anorak
      That's not a "run" though, is it? There were lesser opponents in there for Ping Ping.
      his featherweight run was a run.

      From Barrera to Marquez to Morales. Nobody has fought a schedule that hard.

      This isn't froch's 168 run, these are some of the best featherweights of all time. All 3 are top 50 atg
      Last edited by Paclan; 06-02-2012, 05:19 AM.

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      • !! Anorak
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        #63
        Originally posted by Paclan
        his featherweight run was a run.

        From Barrera to Marquez to Morales. Nobody has fought a schedule that hard.

        This isn't froch's 168 run, these are some of the best featherweights of all time.
        Yeah, but my point is, he had some other opponents in that run, like Asscan Flat Battery. The run as depicted by yourself wasn't all-inclusive.

        It's why others are seemingly confused in this thread, talking about how Wanky and Hopkins are better than other guys... they didn't wholly encompass the run described, and that must be factored in. If I fight six guys are two of them aren't elite, it's not, by definition, an elite run. Dig?


        And I didn't even MENTION Carl Froch in my reply.

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        • !! Anorak
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          #64
          The correct answer is Danny Williams btw. After beating Vitali Klitschko in 8 rounds (TKOing him for three and a half years) he fought 13 fights against future HOFers, including two bouts with John "D Cup" McDermott.

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          • Paclan
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            #65
            ok so I just read the original post and now I get what you guys mean by "run"

            a long series of consecutive fights.

            I was going by the time period.

            In that case yeah, taylor does have one of the most impressive ones.
            Last edited by Paclan; 06-02-2012, 05:45 AM.

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            • nomadman
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              #66
              Originally posted by crold1
              He really didn't and that was the problem. He never stopped being stiff and robotic, was terrible at making adjustments, struggled with consistent accuracy and lacked a certain mental toughness in the ring. He was unfairly labeled as 'athletic' when limited athleticism in terms of coordination and fluidity were liabilities were always issues.

              He stayed focused. He just only had so much upside and the hype overwhelmed that. He got a ton out of speed, strength, and tenacity. He's really an overachiever.
              Very good points. Too often, I think, a fighter gets called athletic if they display a bit of speed and explosivity, when true athleticism covers much more than that. Taylor had quite a few attributes that made him dangerous in the early rounds and against certain types of fighters, but he was never really able to improve beyond a certain point once he reached the top. Poor stamina as well, which is an athletic attribute.

              I'm not sure I'd say Taylor lacked mental toughness, though he tended to back off when he was hurt. He fought in the trenches when he had to, boxed when he had to, and was never to my knowledge intimidated in a fight to the point when he got shut out

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              • RlCKY
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                #67
                Originally posted by ballgamessuck
                What the hell does this thread have to do with Floyd?
                Thread title, who had a tougher run than Jermain Taylor.

                My response: Floyd

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                • RlCKY
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby


                  This forum never ceases to amaze me. Only on Boxing scene are Marquez(who Floyd didn't even make weight for), Hatton, De La Hoya and bum ass Judah better opponents than Hopkins and Winky Wright.
                  My argument was the "run" should be based on the outcome of the fights and not the opponents themselves neccessarily. Anybody can get in the ring with the fighters Taylor did from 2005-2009. However the result was not impressive.

                  I get it that it says tougher run and not better run, but a tough run doesn't mean ****, when you don't look good.

                  I thought Hopkins won the first fight, so IMO Taylor went 1-1-1 against Hopkins and Winky.

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                  • DiegoFuego
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                    #69
                    I've always said this much, but people on here HATED Taylor when he was champion. I think some people never got over the fact that he ended B-Hop's streak. But there's no way in hell Hopkins has a claim to winning either of those fights. He did absolutely nothing for 7 of the first 8 rounds in the first fight. You can't win a fight by only winning 5 rounds unless you score some KDs or get points deducted from the opponent.

                    He also beat Wright in my opinion. At best, Winky could have gotten a draw, which is what he got.

                    I thought Taylor was a fine champion. He just didn't knock *****z out, but so what?

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                    • !! Anorak
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                      #70
                      He beat two welters then had an alchy knock him the **** out.

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