Can Boxing Fans criticise Pacquiao for his catchweight fights and accept that Ward

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Wrong Cotto said he wanted 145 lbs from the beginning, and he said he would be fine at that weight and was very confident of winning.

Bullsheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

[Bushbaby]

And that makes Dawson 7lbs weight cut ok but Cotto's 2 lbs weight cut bad.

I didn't know asking for a fight effected your ability to cut weight

Dawson asked for the fight & offered to fight at 168. Your entire tread was trying to compare that to Pacman asking for Cotto at a mannyweight. Furthermore 168 is not a catchweight.

168 real weight: Check

Dawson asked for the fight & to do it at 168: Check

Ward agreed to fight at 168: Check

Is not the same as

Pacman asked for the welterweight champion at 143: Check

Champion said he'd go no lower than 145: Check.

Pacman offered a fight to Margarito at 150: Check

Neither champions nor deserving of the 154lb title: Check.

The situations are not compatible.

[letsgobrady]

LOL Pacquiao should Marquez at 135lbs and Cotto fight at 154 lbs.

Damn, you must hold Pacquiao in high regard.

You think he should fight anyone from across 4 weight classes at anytime at their weight class, even though he is the one with all the bargaining power.

What other fighter do you think should do this?

off of this post right here i now know you are a troll that doesn't pay any mind to what is being said.
what i was saying is that pacquiao has fought most his fights at a lighter weight class so he should be just fine or at his best fighting at around 135 because according to some of you cotto fought about half his fights at ww so there should be no problems fighting at ww but how do we know that being 31-32 that maybe he doesn't make ww as comfortably as before

[hugh grant]

Incorrect again.

Cotto said HIMSELF that he was drained and that a real champion should not force his opponent to go down. Cotto also implied that he would NEVER turn down OSDT because he is legit.

When did Cotto say he was drained? Miguel is my main man, and i never heard him say it leading up to the fight, or directly after it as an excuse.

Before the fight he was talking about how he is gonna kick Pacs arse. He could have said im drained but i'll still kick his arse, but no. Just gonna kick his arse was what i recall.

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Wrong Cotto said he wanted 145 lbs from the beginning, and he said he would be fine at that weight and was very confident of winning.

If trainer Freddie Roach sticks to his demand, a fight between Manny Pacquiao and Miguel Cotto could collapse. Roach wants Cotto to come down to a catch-weight of 143-pounds for a fight with Pacquiao. Cotto's nutritionist told Top Rank's Bob Arum, who promotes both fighters, that Miguel could only make a "safe" weight of 144 to 145-pounds at most. The Cotto camp would rather have it at 145. Roach wants to get Cotto down as low as possible.

"I spoke with Bob and I told him I want it at 143-pounds," Roach told the Manila Bulletin-Tempo . "The lower I can get him (Cotto), the better. Cotto is still a great fighter. Very strong, and very dangerous. He’s a champion. No way (he’s past his prime). (Manny’s going to have a) hard, hard fight."

Top Rank wants to make the fight for November 14 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Arum held a phone conference with Cotto and his team on Wednesday. He plans to present a deal to Pacquiao's team on Sunday and hopes to get a tentative deal locked in by Monday.

Pacquiao is reported to have asked for a weight of 144 but Roach is a big influence on his fighter and may talk him into a demand of 143. Cotto can't get down to 143 without killing his body. When the fight was first presented to him, he balked at the idea of a catch-weight. Later on he said a weight of 145 was fair. He won't agree to 143.

[D4thincarnation]

http://www.boxingnews 24.com/2009/06/boxing-news-cotto-not-impressed-with-pacquiao/


WBO welterweight champion Miguel Cotto said that he could care less if he has to fight Manny Pacquiao at the 145 pound catch weight that he and his management team want him to fight. Saying “it does not matter if it is at 145 pounds. That was the weight that we said from the beginning and it’s my range. I will increase it by eight to ten pounds [by fight time].” Cotto also said that he was no impressed with Pacquiao’s recent fights, commenting “he [Pacquiao] has two arms and so do I.”


From the beginning.

Read it and weep.

[letsgobrady]

And that makes Dawson 7lbs weight cut ok but Cotto's 2 lbs weight cut bad.

I didn't know asking for a fight effected your ability to cut weight

it's o k for ward because he didn't make dawson do anything
pacquiao makes his opponents come down

[hugh grant]

As i said 145 is where Cotto was at his strongest. Floyd bloated Cotto up to 154, floyd likes bloating fighters so they gas out, like he did to JMM as well.

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When did Cotto say he was drained? Miguel is my main man, and i never heard him say it leading up to the fight, or directly after it as an excuse.

Before the fight he was talking about how he is gonna kick Pacs arse. He could have said im drained but i'll still kick his arse, but no. Just gonna kick his arse was what i recall.

He said it the moment he was not under Arums contract ,,, get the picture idiot ! he also said he was pressured to accepting the CW , by who pray tell ? lol

[D4thincarnation]

it's o k for ward because he didn't make dawson do anything
pacquiao makes his opponents come down

Cotto wanted the fight at 145lbs, it was his offer.

His offer at the beginning of negotiations and he stuck to his guns.