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  • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
    LOL Dawson is much bigger, not 300% bigger which is the difference even when you call it 2lbs vs 6lbs

    And Cotto offer was 145lbs just like Dawson's offer was 168 lbs.

    LOL you even think Pacquiao drained Oscar?

    Prime example of a biased poster, take a look NSB.

    7 lbs to a LHW is not near the same as 2 lbs to WW if the WW cant make it and the LHW can ,,,, you cant compare people like that because no two are the same when it comes to weight ,,, and the biggest factor in this is the fact Dawson called Ward for 168 and Manny called Cotto for 144 and was going to walk if he never got 145 .

    Pac didnt drain Oscar he did it to himself , the FACT remains he was drained and a ruined fighter and it takes the win away because Forbes would have bashed Oscar that night .

    As far as CWs go Manny has been in 2 that he DEMANDED , Cotto and Margo and it hurt both of them severely and Pac knows it , thats why he REFUSES to fight them without draining them , is what it is kid !!

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    • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
      Yeah and Dawson wanted the fight at 175lbs but that wasn't get to land the Ward.

      At least Cotto didn't have to drop down to 140 lbs to get the Pacquiao fight.
      Cotto didn't ask for Pacman, Pacman asked for him.

      Ward didn't ask for Dawson, Dawson asked for him.

      Your entire comparison is baseless & pretty damn redundant.

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      • Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
        the margarito fight is the only fight at 154 cotto asked for a catchweight for and he probably would have never asked for a catchweight if he didn't see many fight margarito at a catchweight.cotto had problems with the weight at 140 and yes ww seemed to be his best weight but he is a little older now so maybe 147 is not the best weight for him anymore.why did pacquiao not fight marquez at 135?if pacquiao would have came down to 135 would that have been alright being that manny has fought most his career at the lighter weights? cotto felt like fighting at 148 would hurt him dawson doesn't feel like fighting at 168 will hurt him

        LOL Pacquiao should Marquez at 135lbs and Cotto fight at 154 lbs.

        Damn, you must hold Pacquiao in high regard.

        You think he should fight anyone from across 4 weight classes at anytime at their weight class, even though he is the one with all the bargaining power.

        What other fighter do you think should do this?

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        • The cotto that fought Pac was the best ever Cotto physically. Cotto made sure he did his roadwork and had an excuse to train harder than he ever did.

          Cotto has said he used to be a fat kid as he liked eating. The cotto against Pac was the best shape Cotto has ever been in.

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          • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
            LOL Dawson is much bigger, not 300% bigger which is the difference even when you call it 2lbs vs 6lbs

            And Cotto offer was 145lbs just like Dawson's offer was 168 lbs.

            LOL you even think Pacquiao drained Oscar?

            Prime example of a biased poster, take a look NSB.
            no oscar wanted to fight manny so thats on oscar but cotto didn't want to fight at 145.did ward ask to fight at 166 and then dawson offered 168?because thats what happened with manny and cotto and cotto actually didn't offer anything he just said that he wouldn't fight below 145 and part of that agreement was that the title would not be on the line because the fight was at a catchweight

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            • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
              Cotto asked for the fight with Pacquiao to be at 145 lbs.
              Bullsheeeeet , Pac want 144 and Cotto had to take 145 or it was no fight Pac was walking , he was pressured by Arum and he said he would never sacrifice his body like that again !

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              • Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
                Cotto didn't ask for Pacman, Pacman asked for him.

                Ward didn't ask for Dawson, Dawson asked for him.

                Your entire comparison is baseless & pretty damn redundant.
                And that makes Dawson 7lbs weight cut ok but Cotto's 2 lbs weight cut bad.

                I didn't know asking for a fight effected your ability to cut weight

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                • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                  The cotto that fought Pac was the best ever Cotto physically. Cotto made sure he did his roadwork and had an excuse to train harder than he ever did.

                  Cotto has said he used to be a fat kid as he liked eating. The cotto against Pac was the best shape Cotto has ever been in.
                  Incorrect again.

                  Cotto said HIMSELF that he was drained and that a real champion should not force his opponent to go down. Cotto also implied that he would NEVER turn down OSDT because he is legit.

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                  • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
                    Bullsheeeeet , Pac want 144 and Cotto had to take 145 or iot was no fight , he was pressured by Arum and he said he would never sacrifice his body like that again !
                    Wrong Cotto said he wanted 145 lbs from the beginning, and he said he would be fine at that weight and was very confident of winning.

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                    • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                      The cotto that fought Pac was the best ever Cotto physically. Cotto made sure he did his roadwork and had an excuse to train harder than he ever did.

                      Cotto has said he used to be a fat kid as he liked eating. The cotto against Pac was the best shape Cotto has ever been in.
                      Jeeeesus your a moron , your like a blow fly dropping sheeeeet everywhere I wish you would learn some boxing basics and then at least you wouldnt come out with such fanboy crap .

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