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  • #71
    The ***... that's bullcrap. Well considering Khan's tendency to run out gas in the championship rounds because of his ****** defensive footwork, he better have a better alternative.

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    • #72
      Old school fighters fought 15 rds throwing bombs and moving all over the ring.. It is wrong to cancel roadwork

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      • #73
        There are better alternatives to roadwork. Boxing is an anaerobic sport of 3 minute rounds

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Light_Speed View Post
          Yes there is, Juan Diaz didn't do any roadwork and swam instead. His stamina was great.


          Actually it does. HIIT increases BOTH aerobic and anaerobic stamina :


          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-in...#Tabata_method


          The best thing road work does is fat burning.
          It does to a degree but remember your body is being pushed for short bursts at near 100%. You likely won't be fighting like that unless you are at the end of a round trying to steal a round before the bell.

          I mean each person is different and different things work for different people. I can do the Tabata stuff for 2 full rounds at this point (40 minutes straight) but I'm not 100% on point while doing it, meaning my reflexes aren't acute, my attention span is shot, I'm just going through the motions at that point.

          When I run, I remained focused and driven the entire time and I get energy from it. After about 3 miles my body starts to really warm up and I get that runner's high thing going and even though it's at a moderate pace, I could go for a couple hours and when I'm done running, I catch my breath in a matter of seconds (I always end my runs by increasing my speed the last mile until I'm at a full sprint the last quarter mile).

          If you think about a fight, 85% of the fight is squaring off and measuring the other person out and throwing out jabs or whatever. 15% of the fight is intense trading of punches in a trading war. I'd think trying to replicate a boxing scenario would be most beneficial.

          So something like running a half mile on a track and then immediately going into a HIIT routine or 2 minutes, then going right back to a half mile jog. Repeat that for an hour or so and you would be simulating the sustained, lower heart rate that you will have for the majority of most fights and the intermediate, high heart rate intervals representative of intense trading of punches. Something like that would help your heart and lungs work in tandem to stabilize your heart rate after you throw an intense combination.

          I do know one thing, doing the same thing all the time loses its effectiveness over time. Switching up routines on a weekly basis makes me feel the best results. And using both jogging and HIIT combined will get you shredded in no time, I'm talking 2 to 3 weeks and you'll be ripped. With HIIT alone, I lost a lot of weight but it seemed to bottom out at a certain point when I had a little fat around my love handle area that seems to take forever to get rid of. The first week I started my jogging again, I noticed my waist line thinning out immediately. But whatever works for each person, I like the adage of variety is the ****e of life.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by mathed View Post
            It does to a degree but remember your body is being pushed for short bursts at near 100%. You likely won't be fighting like that unless you are at the end of a round trying to steal a round before the bell.
            But you need to train for that type of situation so that when it happens, you're ready. In principle training is supposed to be harder than the fight, at least that's the mentality you should have.

            Originally posted by mathed View Post
            If you think about a fight, 85% of the fight is squaring off and measuring the other person out and throwing out jabs or whatever. 15% of the fight is intense trading of punches in a trading war. I'd think trying to replicate a boxing scenario would be most beneficial.
            Maybe for quiet fights but there a lot of fights where the pace is intense. Why only train for the best case scenario? Boxing is a sport with a 3:1 work to rest ratio so your training should reflect that. Fighters don't always work hard for the full round but every once in a while they end up in a situation where they have to, and that's when they're glad they trained for that.

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            • #76
              good read: thaiboxing.com/node/45

              Roadwork is important

              How much and how long you do roadwork for and at what pace is the key...


              Ruben Tabares does track sprinting and jumping...



              Best thing you can do is test different workouts and see what works best for you...

              It shouldn't be that bad for Khan since Garcia isn't going to overwork him..

              If Khan feels tired after fighting Garcia then he needs to revert back to his older training...


              I don't see what the problem with roadwork is... Look at all the greatest fighters who rely on their speed and ring movement and all of them did/do alot of a roadwork.

              Don't be lazy and get running boy.

              This is why having a good ring IQ, defence and countpunching is usefull. Means you can save energy and not waste.

              Khan wastes alot of his energy.
              Last edited by miniq; 06-04-2012, 11:22 AM.

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              • #77
                anyone mentionign jaun diaz - great stamina for full 12 rds and didnt do classic roadwork.
                to be just on on side is quiete ****** and very narrow minded, especially if there are other proven s&c ways.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by vcvc View Post
                  well he says haye never did it under hims aswell, did haye have a tendancy to gas? he had been the full 12 twice.
                  haye throws about 5 punches per round

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Dale Cardon View Post
                    When it comes to roadwork, I find this interesting...

                    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/mahler37.htm

                    I was told by a local boxing coach years ago. To gain stamina you jog a bit, then sprint about a block or two, then jog again. Repeat. Or, after you sprint you can walk a bit untill you are able to jog then sprint. Repeat. I was told this gives you stamina and i belive it.

                    The link sounds like Ali, was doing burpies between his jogs. Ali also used to run in heavy boots.

                    I would also see old time video of old school boxers who would throw punchs while jogging. I've tried this and it does allow you to run further when you think you are done.

                    I aggree with those who say there is no substitute for jogging. Fighters are just getting lazier. And because they are lazier, they are not as great as the champions of past years.

                    Another MAIN staple that should be in every fighters agenda, is to understand boxing, "is not a seasonal sport", boxing is not a part-time job if you want to be great. A fighter must always be in the gym.

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                    • #80
                      There are some viable alternatives to roadwork (the best being swimming), but not many. If he plans on taking an easy route to conditioning, then he isn’t conditioning. This sounds more like a fighter being enabled and is simply avoiding something he does not like doing. I don’t have an opinion one way or the other on Kahn so I just hope he remembers that champions are made long before they ever enter the ring on fight night.

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