Is Manny Pacquiao the most overrated fighter of the past 25 years?

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #21
    Originally posted by Bushbaby
    I think he is. Berto Sugar once said that he was the greatest southpaw of all time.
    He is top 3 though.

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      #22
      Originally posted by therealpugilist
      Mayweather has beaten everyone put in front of him his whole career....43-0 dont lie.....add into the equation he has beaten more world champions in 16 less fights....beat 10 world titlists in a row, something Manny hasnt done, and has won more championship fights....21-0 compared to 16-1-2

      Also Mayweather outside of Judah most of Mayweathers top flight opponents are coming off good showings unlike Pacquaio
      Depends on what you mean good showings? Does it matter if they come off good showings, even if they got 5 losses on their record like SSM, and DLH.? Or was hatton coming off a good showing nearly losint to Collazo and admitting he was finding it hard at 147, so what do you mean exactly?

      Not to mention Pac has just fought better fighters in the earlier part of his career, and beat people more convincinly than FLoyd in the later part of his career.

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        #23
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        Depends on what you mean good showings? Does it matter if they come off good showings, even if they got 5 losses on their record like SSM, and DLH.? Or was hatton coming off a good showing nearly losint to Collazo and admitting he was finding it hard at 147, so what do you mean exactly?

        Not to mention Pac has just fought better fighters in the earlier part of his career, and beat people more convincinly than FLoyd in the later part of his career.
        so before we get into a back and forth rant you did read the facts right

        Mayweather has beaten everyone put in front of him his whole career....43-0 dont lie.....add into the equation he has beaten more world champions in 16 less fights....beat 10 world titlists in a row, something Manny hasnt done, and has won more championship fights....21-0 compared to 16-1-2

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          #24
          Originally posted by therealpugilist
          Some one posted this in one of the previous threads....Ive always thought about it but I have to agree.Most people add into how likeable a fighter is when considering their place among the greats, but really it has no creedance.

          Of the previous p4p kings Mayweather(who never lost and is still active Manny got p4p by default), Roy Jones, and Pernell Whitaker none of them got the praise of Pacquiao and they were more dominant and illustrated more skill in the ring

          Fighters who were undoubtedly the best of their time like Roy Jones and Pernell Whitaker didnt recieve half the hoopla Pacquaio does and both beat their closest rivals of their time. Both never lost a clear fight til their mid 30's and dominated their eras and people always have something to say about their style or competition. Jones and Floyd Mayweather beat more champions than Manny, and Whitaker proved he was the best of his era by fighting the best


          I think its his fans that overrate him, but most hardcore fans and other people dont....some of his ardent fans assertions are a bit far fetched and overboard




          how may PAC threads you plan on making today?


          for someone who doesnt impress you and you think is the most overrated, you sure do yap about the guy a lot

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            #25
            Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
            how may PAC threads you plan on making today?


            for someone who doesnt impress you and you think is the most overrated, you sure do yap about the guy a lot
            do you say the same thing so all the pacfarts who talk about floyd 24/7?

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              #26
              Originally posted by Primera
              do you say the same thing so all the pacfarts who talk about floyd 24/7?


              i sure do...you follow me around enough, you should know

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                #27
                Originally posted by therealpugilist
                so before we get into a back and forth rant you did read the facts right

                add into the equation he has beaten more world champions in 16 less fights....beat 10 world titlists in a row, something Manny hasnt done, and has won more championship fights....21-0 compared to 16-1-2
                Im not adding statistics up, i lost count when Pacs stats got too high. But you think Pac is overated and not Floyd, even though Pacs got statitics Floyd cant boast?

                Are you down grading Pac as he makes his opponents look like elelphan men?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by hugh grant
                  Im not adding statistics up, i lost count when Pacs stats got too high. But you think Pac is overated and not Floyd, even though Pacs got statitics Floyd cant boast?

                  Are you down grading Pac as he makes his opponents look like elelphan men?


                  im not downgrading him at all, if you could read i said he is one of the best fighters of the past 25 years.....he just isnt THE BEST of the past 25 years

                  Floyd isnt overrated because he is the most skilled fighter of the past generation and all people do it put him down and his accomplishments, say he is scared, he runs, this that etc. they dont like him as a person, I couldnt care less

                  you stopped adding up statistics cuz you cant ignore the truth...if you **** on Mayweathers competition you have to do the same with Manny who has fought less champions....won less title fights....and defended his titles less times

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
                    how may PAC threads you plan on making today?


                    for someone who doesnt impress you and you think is the most overrated, you sure do yap about the guy a lot
                    two whole threads....OMG must be a record lol....most of you posters on here dont read....I said the guy was one of the best of the past 25 years....the 2nd best fighter in the world, and im not on his bandwagon, Im on boxing's bandwagon, I like the sport not just because of one fighter like some

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                      #30
                      It all depends on who's doing the rating.

                      Pac is the most overrated fighter in the last 25 years. So is Floyd, so either Klitschko brother, so is Hopkins etc etc.

                      Pac is the most UNDERRATED fighter in the last 25 years. So is Floyd, so either Klitschko brother, so is Hopkins etc etc.

                      It all depends on who's doing the rating.

                      For my book and from what I read on here Oscar and Judah are easily way more overrated than Pac is...Easily. But, again I don't personally rate these guys or think highly of these guys as other posters do. Which again it all depends on who's doing the rating.

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