Ward and Froch should be consider top 5 P4P

[Biolink]

Ward yes, Froch no, but I guess a case could be made for him being 7-10 P4P.

[crold1]

Use common sense. If you think Froch is a skillful boxer something is wrong with you.

What do you mean by skill? Define it. It's not a common sense thing at all. There are people who think speed is a skill for instance. It's not. I'm curious how you're using it. Bute would be assumed as more skilled before last Saturday by some but Froch outboxed as much as outpunched him. How?

[Weebler I]

I stand by my claim. Froch is nowhere near as good as Judah at his best.

Well it's all opinion I suppose, I disagree.

I like Judah, he is skilled and 5 world titles is nothing to sniff at however given his performances in big fights I believe he turned out to be a B+ fighter who everyone first thought was going to be A+. Good fighter not a great one.

[steeluv]

froch is good but i dont think hes in the p4p at all

money
pacman
ward
martinez
marquez
donaire
w.klits
bradley
mares
dawson


i dont think hes better than any of those guys

hes got a chin in the ball park of B hop so he should be above Wlad

[crold1]

I stand by my claim. Froch is nowhere near as good as Judah at his best.

Yeah, I mean Froch gets dropped all the time by guys like Bergman, Millett, walks backwards with his hands straight down to get dropped by Tszyu and Cory Spinks; he's never been wobbled all over the ring by a Baldomir much less lost to one.

Froch is just the sort of mentally tough fighter Judah has almost never been able to deal with.


So, again, if Judah is what you mean by 'skill,' define skill.

[jayjames616]

Yeah, I mean Froch gets dropped all the time by guys like Bergman, Millett, walks backwards with his hands straight down to get dropped by Tszyu and Cory Spinks; he's never been wobbled all over the ring by a Baldomir much less lost to one.

Froch is just the sort of mentally tough fighter Judah has almost never been able to deal with.


So, again, if Judah is what you mean by 'skill,' define skill.

Go read the f**king definition if u want to learn the definition or you could just use common sense like I advised earlier.

[crold1]

Go read the f**king definition if u want to learn the definition or you could just use common sense like I advised earlier.

LOL

Yeah.

'Skill.'

[bojangles1987]

Not currently but at his best Judah is 10x better than Froch ever was or could be.

For f***'s sake, people don't get it at all with Judah.

[Roman Moreno]

Lol @ Judah at his best is better than Froch.

[crold1]

Lol @ Judah at his best is better than Froch.

Judah was better at doing flashy moves, was blessed with more speed and one punch pop, and was WAY better at getting beat.