Ward and Froch should be consider top 5 P4P

[crold1]

Yeah not top 20 is a little harsh, Carl is in the 15 to 20 range for me. He has a good resume but he is lacking big time in the skills department.

define skill?

[Heeb]

P4P doesn't really mean anything and is incredibly subjective. No doubt Froch has one of the best resumes over the past few years though.

[Heeb]

Yeah not top 20 is a little harsh, Carl is in the 15 to 20 range for me. He has a good resume but he is lacking big time in the skills department.

Well when you look at how good his resume is, he's clearly doing something right.

[ChampBox@PR]

Yeah not top 20 is a little harsh, Carl is in the 15 to 20 range for me. He has a good resume but he is lacking big time in the skills department.

So Judah >>>>> froch, right? thats what i thought!

[Weebler I]

Yeah not top 20 is a little harsh, Carl is in the 15 to 20 range for me. He has a good resume but he is lacking big time in the skills department.

It's not pfp best skills, it's pfp best fighter as evinced by their competitive record.

[jayjames616]

So Judah >>>>> froch, right? thats what i thought!

Not currently but at his best Judah is 10x better than Froch ever was or could be.

[jayjames616]

define skill?

Use common sense. If you think Froch is a skillful boxer something is wrong with you.

[Weebler I]

Not currently but at his best Judah is 10x better than Froch ever was or could be.

This is nonsense - and I'm a Judah fan. He was hyped up 10x more than Froch though.

[Bushbaby]

Ward is my #1. His last 2 years are the best of top fighters. PFP currently is mostly a popularity contest.

[jayjames616]

This is nonsense - and I'm a Judah fan. He was hyped up 10x more than Froch though.

I stand by my claim. Froch is nowhere near as good as Judah at his best.