Has the heavyweight era really...

[nomadman]

There is no american championship now, im just waiting for the cubans to join the party!

There'll be no food or drink left at the party once the Cubans join it. Those dudes really need to sort out their pro-discipline issues.

[nomadman]

The heavyweight scene is in bad shape, Fury and Price are being talked about as potential Klitschko challengers within the next year, neither of them are ready, both would be brutally knocked out. A fully fit Chisora would beat them both IMO.

That's more to do with artificially heightened expectations than anything else, though Price looks very good.

[1g5a22]

Do you mean if the Klits fought Tua and Ike in their primes? Yeah, you might hear a few grumbles, but it was clear that both guys were tremendous specimens and top class pugilists. Tua's power alone would have turned heads whatever era he was in. Analyzing a fighter in isolation is hard but it isn't impossible.

I think tua would have beaten tyson in the 90's! How that guy never picked up a belt is beyond me...lewis ran from him for 12 rounds! Great fighter...

The likes of tua and byrd would do well in any era. The best 5 fighters for me of this era are wladimir, vitali, byrd, povetkin and chagaev...now can anyone honestly tell me all 5 of those are not very talented fighters who would do well whatever there D-O-B?

[nomadman]

There is some interesting HW prospects coming up though such as Pulev, Ustinov, Wach, Gerber, Ortiz.

Ustinov and Wach are not interesting prospects at all. Both are old, and just plain horrible, skill wise. Pulev I'm having my doubts about as well. He seems to be turning into one of those lacklustre, do enough to win, types that typified the previous decade. Also seems not to have improved very much in his last few fights (still a predominant head hunter one two puncher).

[nomadman]

Someone pointed out the other day that Vitali still doesn't have a signature win and when you look through his resume it appears accurate. That is pretty damning. Wladimir at least has Haye.

Haye isn't really a signature win unless you're primarily talking about the hype and expectations the fight drew. Byrd, Chambers, Chagaev, Ibragimov and Peter were all similarly respectable wins.

I would say Peter, Gomez and Sanders were pretty respectable wins for Vittles as well. With Peter it was the manner and circumstances of the win that were so impressive.

[1g5a22]

There'll be no food or drink left at the party once the Cubans join it. Those dudes really need to sort out their pro-discipline issues.

Are you referring to solis, don't tar them all with the same brush!

undefeated cuban southpaw mike perez (top prospect):



Eliseo Castillo (who outboxed michael moorer):



juan carlos gomez (who beat an ageing but stil dangerous mcall):

[1g5a22]

Ustinov and Wach are not interesting prospects at all. Both are old, and just plain horrible, skill wise. Pulev I'm having my doubts about as well. He seems to be turning into one of those lacklustre, do enough to win, types that typified the previous decade. Also seems not to have improved very much in his last few fights (still a predominant head hunter one two puncher).

Boystov, perez and gold medallist chakiev are the ones to watch!

[dan_cov]

Ustinov and Wach are not interesting prospects at all. Both are old, and just plain horrible, skill wise. Pulev I'm having my doubts about as well. He seems to be turning into one of those lacklustre, do enough to win, types that typified the previous decade. Also seems not to have improved very much in his last few fights (still a predominant head hunter one two puncher).

I certainly agree about Pulev being a one two head hunter with little variety, I actually felt if Dimitrienko kept it simple he could of taken that fight as Pulev seemed very limited & predictable.

For all the wrong reasons I'd love to see Ustinov/Wach vs Fury or Towers.

[Capaedia]

If the brothers did ''The bum of the month tour'' they would likely get crucified for it yet Louis gets praise?

It's called that because Joe Louis made them look like 'bums', not because they were. Much like Wlad actually. Vitali, not so much. He has fought lots of light touches when he shouldn't have.

Joe Louis fought everyone who reached #1 contender between 1934 and 1951 bar two, when he was busy fighting in WWII (lets not forget he spent a few years of his prime enlisted in the army). They were no longer relevant when he got back.

He fought every heavyweight titlist between Jack Sharkey and Rocky Marciano.

More importantly, he did this alone. He didn't delegate Schmeling to his brother, like Wlad did with Sanders, or Vitali did with Byrd. He went and beat him in the rematch himself.

[dan_cov]

Are you referring to solis, don't tar them all with the same brush!

undefeated mike perez:



Eliseo Castillo (who outboxed michael moorer):



juan carlos gomez (who beat an ageing but stil dangerous mcall):

I have high hopes for Perez, I keep forgetting he is still only like 25-26
That guy has some talent.
Lovely skills & what I feel a lot of heavies are lacking today, killer instinct.
He is a very good finisher & really is one too watch out for IMO

Is he still based in Ireland? I think I read something about him going to America pre/post the Friday Ahunanya fight.