Toney voted top Heavyweight among all

[PBDS]

hey morons, james toney is 5'9, no way he gets by wlad with such a huge physical disadvantage.

this is the same forum where people went on for days about how 2 pounds were the reason castillo beat corrales but you same morons cant admit that a 9 inch height disadvantage would get toney killed by wlad.

toney has the best skills at heavy because he isnt a heavy. its just like antonio tarver will have great boxing skliis at heavy if he tries but he'll still get knocked the **** out.

....Best post backing a potential Wlad/Toney fight with logic and sound reasoning I have seen in a long long time.

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Wlad fans are truly pathethic. They really want to fight a smaller Toney just so they can get a belt on him.

This dude is a modern day hype.

....Best post backing a potential Wlad/Toney fight with logic and sound reasoning I have seen in a long long time.

[j]

well blood, being that he's such a "hype", i'll bet you all of my points that he beats toney if they ever fight. remember to quote this.

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He's much bigger than Toney. Toney has no chance because of the size differential.

Also, whats up J? This is ImSoFlyyy aka Rodgers=bust aka Mnash.

well blood, being that he's such a "hype", i'll bet you all of my points that he beats toney if they ever fight. remember to quote this.

[oldgringo]

....Best post backing a potential Wlad/Toney fight with logic and sound reasoning I have seen in a long long time.

Except that he just drew a comparison between Toney and Tarver.

[j]

i'd say, if wladimir was 3 inches shorter(6'6"/6'7" to 6'4"), that he would still beat toney.

toney is extremely skiled, especially at rolling punches, good timing in inside fighting, and being relaxed in the ring, but from all the fights i've seen of wlad's, of which i've seen every fight exception of 1 or 2, he is a smart and an extremely sound technical boxer. he's fought many top ten class opponents and has something like 46 or 47 pro fights under his belt. and only 29 years old. when he gets a bit more use to the rough-housing or tricky inside or clinch game, he would be a very tough opponent for anybody.

[Bozo_no no]

i'd say, if wladimir was 3 inches shorter(6'6"/6'7" to 6'4"), that he would still beat toney.

toney is extremely skiled, especially at rolling punches, good timing in inside fighting, and being relaxed in the ring, but from all the fights i've seen of wlad's, of which i've seen every fight exception of 1 or 2, he is a smart and an extremely sound technical boxer. he's fought many top ten class opponents and has something like 46 or 47 pro fights under his belt. and only 29 years old. when he gets a bit more use to the rough-housing or tricky inside or clinch game, he would be a very tough opponent for anybody.

And if 90% of World class middleweights were 9 inches taller than Wlad and outweighed him significantly, I'd take a strong majority of them to knock him out.

Wlad would be favored over Toney, because he's naturally twice the size of Toney.

You act as though it makes for a good point to suggest that if Wlad were a bit shorter, it wouldn't matter.

Make them the same size, and Toney is a shoe in to beat Wlad every time.

The only reason Wlad would be favored would be because of the tremendous advantate in Height, size, and reach.

It's a natural miss match were it not for Toney being so skilled and able to get away with fighting at Heavy.

[j]

yeah bozo that's a real good arguement. the problem is that middleweights are not heavyweights, but this has nothing to do with height or other factors.


what was your point? that world class middleweights have more skill? strap a 50 to 70 pound weight vest on 'em and see if they can still maintain a lot of those quicker moves.

[Konstantin]

And if 90% of World class middleweights were 9 inches taller than Wlad and outweighed him significantly, I'd take a strong majority of them to knock him out.

Wlad would be favored over Toney, because he's naturally twice the size of Toney.

You act as though it makes for a good point to suggest that if Wlad were a bit shorter, it wouldn't matter.

Make them the same size, and Toney is a shoe in to beat Wlad every time.

The only reason Wlad would be favored would be because of the tremendous advantate in Height, size, and reach.

It's a natural miss match were it not for Toney being so skilled and able to get away with fighting at Heavy.

Thats not good logic...

If Wlad were Toneys size he would obviously be a totally different fighter... he would probably be quite mobile and his tactics would have to totally change...

[j]

konstantin, that's basically my point in a round about way. different sized people, different weighted people, different dominant handed people have to adjust differently. no middleweights would be fighting the same way as they did if they were heavyweights.