Cotto, Castillo, Corrales: Who has the better wins?????

[4Corners]

If anyone is consider Castillo to have beaten Mayweather then I can't see how he isn't a first Ballot HOF'er.

I personally felt Mayweather won both fights and I still think Castillo has an argument.

With Mayweather on his resume, he's a First Ballot HOF'er.

I thought Castillo won the first in a very very very close fight. I had Floyd winning a comfortable UD in the 2nd fight. I almost wish Castillo had gotten the decision in the first fight, we could have seen a 3rd fight in 2003 in a good LW trilogy.

[turbotime]

I don't really think Shane is. Oscar is in my book, he beat Trinidad, I don't care what anyone says about Oscar coasting late in the fight, he won more rounds. But everyone has their opinions.

I consider an ATG top 25, give and take. I rank Oscar top 40. He's my boy and a great fighter and would be a handful for anyone 130-147 IMO.

[4Corners]

I consider an ATG top 25, give and take. I rank Oscar top 40. He's my boy and a great fighter and would be a handful for anyone 130-147 IMO.

Wow, based on only Top 25 as ATG, Floyd wouldn't be an ATG to me then. I got Floyd and Manny around Top 30.

ATG great to me is maybe Top 100, it's hard to have an exact number. The HOF is obviously many more. Oscar is around Top 45-50 to me.

[turbotime]

Wow, based on only Top 25 as ATG, Floyd wouldn't be an ATG to me then. I got Floyd and Manny around Top 30.

ATG great to me is maybe Top 100, it's hard to have an exact number. The HOF is obviously many more. Oscar is around Top 45-50 to me.

I think there are All-Timers, then Greats, which are probably top 60 and below to me. Floyd needs that Pac win or that Martinez win to be an all-timer IMO. Same with Pac.

[bojangles1987]

I consider an ATG top 25, give and take. I rank Oscar top 40. He's my boy and a great fighter and would be a handful for anyone 130-147 IMO.

That's kind of harsh for ATG. Out of the entire history of the sport, only saying 25 guys are ATG is kind of cruel.

Most say top 100, so I go with that when considering whether a fighter is an ATG or not, but that will eventually have to be expanded as fighters currently in the top 100 are replaced. You can't say those fighters aren't ATG anymore.

[gingerbreadman]

Castillo. Just. And it's one **** of a good question. And one that I've never seen postulated before, so muchos points for originality

[turbotime]

That's kind of harsh for ATG. Out of the entire history of the sport, only saying 25 guys are ATG is kind of cruel.

Most say top 100, so I go with that when considering whether a fighter is an ATG or not, but that will eventually have to be expanded as fighters currently in the top 100 are replaced. You can't say those fighters aren't ATG anymore.

It does seem harsh on it's face but making up a list with Moore, Greb, Ali and then seeing someone like Calzaghe's name in that same breath just does not sit right with me.

Maybe top 50 would be more lax, but I'd have to draw the line there

[bojangles1987]

It does seem harsh on it's face but making up a list with Moore, Greb, Ali and then seeing someone like Calzaghe's name in that same breath just does not sit right with me.

Maybe top 50 would be more lax, but I'd have to draw the line there

A lot of people wouldn't put Calzaghe or Oscar or Trinidad or guys like that in the top 100.

[turbotime]

A lot of people wouldn't put Calzaghe or Oscar or Trinidad or guys like that in the top 100.

You wouldn't consider Oscar or JC top 100? I have both top 70.

[4Corners]

A lot of people wouldn't put Calzaghe or Oscar or Trinidad or guys like that in the top 100.

I don't consider Calzaghe an ATG, but he's a sure fire HOF. Oscar, I consider him an All-Time, tons of solid wins, and should have had wins over Trinidad and Mosley as well. Trinidad.....if you give him the Oscar win, he very well could be Top 100, but I don't really think he won that fight.