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THE FLURRY: After Saturday, I Feel Confident Manny Beats Floyd

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  • #51
    Originally posted by Easy-E View Post
    He fought Cotto that was weight drained at a bogus 145 catchweight -- Cotto looked much healthier in the Floyd fight. Plus I think there is something to be said for Cotto's mental health and training regimen.

    Generally, (not specifically) I think its fair to say that Floyd fought the better versions of their common opponents while Manny beat them more convincingly (Marquez the exception here).
    Like I said, Floyd fought the post-Margarito/Pacquiao beatdown Cotto. Cotto after the Pacquiao fight was not the same. Cotto jumps up to 154lb after the Pac beatdown trying to "re-invent" himself when he's not even a 154lb fighter.

    If you don't believe me that Cotto's not a 154lb fighter, why did Cotto try and do a catchweight fight with Margarito at 150lb?

    Floyd thought he could be more impressive than Pacquiao, we all saw how that turned out.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Easy-E View Post
      How many times has he fought at 147? How many titles has he won at 147?
      Bradley himself made the decision to move up to 147lb division. Bradley admits 147lb is his natural weight and he's staying there.

      Hatton on the other hand was forced to move up to 147lb by Mayweather, this is a completely different situation.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Imatroll View Post
        Bradley himself made the decision to move up to 147lb division. Bradley admits 147lb is his natural weight and he's staying there.

        Hatton on the other hand was forced to move up to 147lb by Mayweather, this is a completely different situation.
        I guess people forget that Bradley himself challenged Pac at 147

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Mayabang View Post
          I guess people forget that Bradley himself challenged Pac at 147
          Ok and?.....

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Imatroll View Post
            Bradley himself made the decision to move up to 147lb division. Bradley admits 147lb is his natural weight and he's staying there.

            Hatton on the other hand was forced to move up to 147lb by Mayweather, this is a completely different situation.
            Hatton had several fights at 147 before Floyd.
            Bradley has had one (three fights back) before Manny.

            Your logic makes no sense.
            Reality is, Bradley is a 140 pound fight who is moving up for this fight. Will he stay? We shall see. But to say his weight class is 147 when he has barley fought there? Just silly.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Imatroll View Post
              Ok and?.....
              i was backing u up btw hehe

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Mayabang View Post
                I guess people forget that Bradley himself challenged Pac at 147
                This is true that Bradley is willing to go up to 147 to fight Pac but that doesn't mean he is a 147 pounder. Floyd just moved up to fight Cotto at 154 but is he a 154 pounder? Is Manny post Margarito?
                Of course not.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Mayabang View Post
                  i was backing u up btw hehe
                  Lol I thought the opposite

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Easy-E View Post
                    This is true that Bradley is willing to go up to 147 to fight Pac but that doesn't mean he is a 147 pounder. Floyd just moved up to fight Cotto at 154 but is he a 154 pounder? Is Manny post Margarito?
                    Of course not.
                    BRADLEY: "They really don’t know my background. At 16 years old I wasn’t at 116 pounds. I was 152 pounds fighting in the amateurs fighting guys 6’, 5’11”, 6’1”. You know. So naturally I feel I’m the bigger guy. I mean this guy, he grew to this weight. I’ve been at 150-something pounds since I was 16 years old and I’m 28 now. So you know I squeeze down to 140 to make that weight. 147 is pretty much my natural weight, so I’m a lot stronger at 147 pounds."

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                      The thing is if Pac and Floyd fight, and lets say Pac beat s Floyd. Are these floyd fans going to say to themselves, wow that suprised me i didnt see that happening, feigning being surprised?

                      Err hello, Pac did beat all common opponnents better wasnt it obvious and why didnt you see it? Floyd fans wouldnt even be able to use the in hindsight or perhaps looking back excuse, maybe we should have expected Pac to beat Floyd.!

                      If on the other hand Floyd beats Pac you could argue, just goes to show just cos Pac beat everyone better than Floyd dont mean Pac beats Floyd, triangle theories dont work.

                      Just like Atlas thinking Hatton would beat Pac, but after the fight he said in hindsight he was an idiot to make such predictions, making a mockery of his so called expertise, even ray charles and stevie wonder without expertise could see it.
                      Manny beat JMM better than Floyd did? I love how *******s pretend that fight didn't happen.

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