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  • nomadman
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    #11
    Originally posted by edgarg
    Also, Lewis is no gentleman. Any educated Englishman, who hears him speak could tell you he's a lower class Londoner with the average educational background.
    A gentleman is defined by his actions not his upbringing. Lewis wasn't perfect (who was?) but in the thug-filled world of boxing he never did anything to bring shame upon himself or his sport. He was a great and worthy champion and should be commended as such.

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    • TheSpecial
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      #12
      I could give a **** about anyone other then Erislandy Lara, but I just need to say this.


      The primary reason the Klithsckos are the outstanding gentlemen that they are is not as their racist fans claim on various sites that they are 'white' but that they had the educational background many former HW Champions like Tyson lacked.
      Both not only went to undergrad on and off but also got PHDS. If you have that strong college background in you, of course you will act more like a gentleman and less like a Chisora. Go to any major university around the world, it's rare you see guys talking like 'rappers' and acting thug life lol.

      The fact that Lenny Lewwy had a upbringing every bit as bad if NOT WORSE then Tyson's yet overall still conducted himself in a very understanding manner more or less throughout his career speak volumes about him as a human being and he should be respected for that alone.
      Tyson was a thug but like Emmanuel Steward said 'Lennox is a thug as well ,he just don't feel the need to show it' . Emmanuel is right on the money. Lennox is a gangster. Lennox IS A THUG. But he never once let that surface like the scum Mike Tyson did.
      The Rahman ESPN Incident was a fix, everyone know that. The Tyson incident was Tyson charging in all rapist mode attempting to hump ass. Of course Lenny being the heterosexual male that he is attempted to protect himself.

      The Bowe Lewis trash talk incident made everyone that watched it love the two big honey bears more. Because even their trash talking is sweet and harmless.
      The boxing world need another Lennox Lewis. He is a great champion and what's more important a great human being.

      I love you LENNY LEWIS


      ps
      Erislandy Lara to KO Hearns within 5

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      • nycsmooth
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        #13
        LL overated...never would have beaten Holmes, going back Ali, Foreman, and forget what Liston would have done 2 him...Sonny's reach was as long as LL's & Lewis wouldn't have been able to outjab any of the afore-mentioned...

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        • Mr. Invincible
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          #14
          Good read. Lennox is likeable. Should have rematched Vitali when it mattered though. It would be a brutal a55 whipping at this point and Vitali would get no credit for it.

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          • edgarg
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            #15
            Originally posted by nomadman
            A gentleman is defined by his actions not his upbringing. Lewis wasn't perfect (who was?) but in the thug-filled world of boxing he never did anything to bring shame upon himself or his sport. He was a great and worthy champion and should be commended as such.
            I wasn't referring to Lewis as champion. Your understanding of "gentleman" is correct today, but Gerbasi was obviously meaning an "Eton/Harrow-Cambridge/Oxford University education, "gentleman". In London are millions indistinguishable from Lewis, other than boxing ability. Lewis is otherwise very ordinary. No harm in that. A holdover from the aftermath of WW1, when America was flooded with English gentlemen and impoverished noblemen looking for rich American wives, has lingered, resulting in a belief that a South-England accent and normal behaviour is automatically a gentlemen in the old sense of the word. Many crooks were still gentlemen, due to their background and upbringing.

            What I was bothered about was the writer's foolish and fawning outpouring. Lewis is very sensitive on this, and Gerbasi was pandering to him. I've always liked Gerbasi...until now. One can almost see him crawling on his stomach. And to write about 3,000 words or more on Lewis' carefully crafted 3rd grade "joke"......

            I urge you to look at the full Lewis-McCall fight. keep in mind that this poor unhinged guy had been constantly in and out of sanitoriums for the previous year, full of dope and booze, and other mentsl problems, and had gone in again only SIX WEEKS before the fight. He may have been there only a week..... But it's an open fact that he was dragged out for this fight, and became unwillingly,(surely against his private doctor's advice-no doctor could approve this) and not trained.

            Again, look at the fight with a critical eye, and I believe you'll come to the conclusion as I did. It jumps out at you. You can see that McCall, after the second (I think) rd can't even sit down in the intervals, but wanders all over the ring as if out for an aimless stroll. Mills Lane should have immediately stopped the fight right there. Of course, if he'd done that.......it would have become an NC with McCall retaining the title. He waited until after the 4th rd of this bizzarre spectacle and waved the fight off after the first few seconds. All nice and "legal". I don't say that Lewis was involved in planning this, but he took part, and had the chutzpah to claim it as a victory. To his credit, it can actually be seen that he was uncomfortable. Lane and both promoters should have been investigated, and the purse held up.

            Don King's "fine Byzantine hand" was all over this.
            Last edited by edgarg; 04-20-2012, 11:42 AM. Reason: typos

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            • turbotime
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              #16
              Originally posted by nycsmooth
              LL overated...never would have beaten Holmes, going back Ali, Foreman, and forget what Liston would have done 2 him...Sonny's reach was as long as LL's & Lewis wouldn't have been able to outjab any of the afore-mentioned...
              So because you pick 4 of the best heavyweights to ever fight against Lewis, that means he is overrated?

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              • JAB5239
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                #17
                Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
                Good read. Lennox is likeable. Should have rematched Vitali when it mattered though. It would be a brutal a55 whipping at this point and Vitali would get no credit for it.
                How do you figure it would be this brutal beat down you're claiming? It wasn't a beat down the first fight and Lewis came in at a career high in weight and clearly underestimated Vitaly. We've all seen how rematches go with a motivated and in shape Lewis. I personally think Lewis would have stopped Vitaly had they rematched and he not retired. If he didn't though I still can't envision a beat down just based on the first fight.

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                • Mr. Invincible
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by JAB5239
                  How do you figure it would be this brutal beat down you're claiming? It wasn't a beat down the first fight and Lewis came in at a career high in weight and clearly underestimated Vitaly. We've all seen how rematches go with a motivated and in shape Lewis. I personally think Lewis would have stopped Vitaly had they rematched and he not retired. If he didn't though I still can't envision a beat down just based on the first fight.
                  Huh? He's 47 dude. Seriously what are you smoking and what the hell is wrong with you?

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                  • Jack Napier
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                    #19
                    good for Lewis to stay retired
                    he's gotten more props out of boxing than when he was active
                    nothing for him to prove and he still has money
                    and the Klits would beat him at this point
                    the whole thing with him and Vit is beyond old
                    aside from the "facts" guy, nobody cares anymore

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                    • nomadman
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by nycsmooth
                      LL overated...never would have beaten Holmes, going back Ali, Foreman, and forget what Liston would have done 2 him...Sonny's reach was as long as LL's & Lewis wouldn't have been able to outjab any of the afore-mentioned...
                      Why not add Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano and Frank Bruno to that list?

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