Bradley will have to KO Pac to win

[hugh grant]

Bradley wont have to knock out Pac to win. But the least he could do is visually beat Pac up like Pac has done to so many opponnents.

If Pac can do that time after time, is it asking too much for someone to do that to Pac?
If Pac can do that, why cant other boxers?

[Oh you out son]

[QUOTE=ADP02;12005151]What does the first fight have to do with the 2nd fight? Ali lost the first one against Frazier no matter how many times Ali beat Frazier after that. A loss is a loss!

Many gave it to Castillo including Lederman .... Castillo couldn't win that unless he KOed Floyd, right?

You guys are so quick to go against Manny but once the tables are turned, oh, no .... Floyd didn't win because of Arum .... why should Castillo have won .... why should Floyd get DQed?

No one is "going against" Manny lol. We are just stating the obvious in that Arum will not let precious Manny lose a decision until he fights Mayweather and loses and then Arum has finally cashed out on him.

[Bermuda]

Bradley can't draw *****. The man can't draw fans to his own back yard. Noway Bob would consider Bradley as his next flagship fighter. Rios would be a much better choice. Theres no real money with Bradley. Bradley like Clottey have has already lost. Funny how Bradley is acting like Clottey was with their fight win Pac. These guys are paid off and after tonight its becoming way to obviouse..

So even if pac does beat Bradley convincingly or stops him you *****s will just say it was a fixed fight... Lmao.....clottey a fixed fight too? Lol... The guy was scared to throw and get hit.. He even said to max kellerman before the fight that he didn't want to end up like cotto did against pac...clottey only fought to survive..plain and simple no conspiracy theory.

[Oh you out son]

It is plausible that Arum just lets the chips fall where they may, Manny doesn't have all that many attractive options left or even that many fights left period.

It is late in the game with Pacquiao and Arum needs to be getting on with the exit strategy, I don't really think Bradley could cash in to a level that it would be worth it to Arum but he is Bob Arum he might think he can make that work if Bradley can win and if Manny wins just keep working that train.

This is hopeful thinking. I just don't think so man. Manny is still a superstar and I strongly believe him and Mayweather will still fight. So Manny will not lose a decision until he fights Mayweather. Come on man, this is Bob Arum, he doesn't think he can make Bradley a star, and he is right about that he will never be.

[Oh you out son]

So even if pac does beat Bradley convincingly or stops him you *****s will just say it was a fixed fight... Lmao.....clottey a fixed fight too? Lol... The guy was scared to throw and get hit.. He even said to max kellerman before the fight that he didn't want to end up like cotto did against pac...clottey only fought to survive..plain and simple no conspiracy theory.

No, this is not what we are saying. If Pac wins legitimately like against Clottey no one would think it was a fixed fight. The fix comes into play when Pac is losing the fight and the paid off judges give Pac the decision - aka Pac vs. Marquez 3.

I know, you think Pac won that fight, fine but last night is an even better example. Rios is Arum's new "star" (he has a good fan base and has a marketable type personality - the "don't give a ****" badass persona). He couldn't have Bam Bam lose that fight against a nobody bum like Abril, so he told Rios and Garcia that as long as he doesnt get knocked out or stopped he is all good and will win. Hence why they showed no deseperation in the corner and celebrated by parading around the ring. disgrace

[deejd]

After watching that catastrophic robbery tonight, I have realized something.

Bradley will have to KO pac to win, and we know that won't happen. People might have thought before that if he schools pac and scores what should be a clear decision that he would get the win, but now I am sure Bob is shameless enough to do it.

Nope, they'll just rule it a slip and say the guy hurt himself so he can't continue. NC.

[ADP02]

No one is "going against" Manny lol. We are just stating the obvious in that Arum will not let precious Manny lose a decision until he fights Mayweather and loses and then Arum has finally cashed out on him.

No, this is not what we are saying......... The fix comes into play when Pac is losing the fight and the paid off judges give Pac the decision - aka Pac vs. Marquez 3.

These "Manny can't lose under Arum" threads were out there as soon as they announced Rios the winner.

Manny vs Marquez fight was too close yet you are ready to call it a fix. Some have called the Clottey fight a fix too (Manny haters admitting to this in this thread too)

So besides the close fight where I believe Manny won, there were no fights where Manny won that could have been a loss. Again, it was too close to call a robbery .... but I see that in your subjective opinion it was a fix .... so that kind of rules you out from making an objective opinion just like those who claim Clottey lost. Yet these same critics of Arum are the same ones who don't want to remember that Floyd was also part of Arum when many said he lost to Castillo and was not DQed when his corner rushed Judah in the middle of the round.

Read this thread .... all the excuses in the book because they want to protect their Floyd at all costs.

My point is if you guys really believe that Arum's part of it then why are you ready to say it for Manny (can't lose under Arum) but can't say it for Floyd?

[Luilun]

I thought Floyd Rematched Castillo and beat his ass. Wasn't Floyd injured in the Castillo fight? He rematched him anyways and removed all doubts.

You think if would have been cool for Floyd to get disqualified something he had no control over?

Shouldn't Pac be disqualified for hitting Marquez while he was down. Yeah, you would never say that. You Pac fans are a disgrace of boxing fans. Am sure you guys are ok with tonight's decision...

A fighters control or not still gets disqualified if your cornerman steps in the ring know the rules before you post it makes you look ******, Were talking about the first fight not the second fight and if you believe Floyd had a rotator cuff tear that would have continued to worsen num nuts. Where are his surgery scars for the torn Rotator ? It's just an excuse

[ADP02]

A fighters control or not still gets disqualified if your cornerman steps in the ring know the rules before you post it makes you look ******, Were talking about the first fight not the second fight and if you believe Floyd had a rotator cuff tear that would have continued to worsen num nuts. Where are his surgery scars for the torn Rotator ? It's just an excuse

Watch it. They will go on an all out defensive blitz if you mention their hero's name!

The funniest one is. "You are not aloud to go back to the Castillo fight because it happened so long ago". That is funny in itself but in this same thread they are hating on Manny and going further back in time.

[turbotime]

These "Manny can't lose under Arum" threads were out there as soon as they announced Rios the winner.

Manny vs Marquez fight was too close yet you are ready to call it a fix. Some have called the Clottey fight a fix too (Manny haters admitting to this in this thread too)

So besides the close fight where I believe Manny won, there were no fights where Manny won that could have been a loss. Again, it was too close to call a robbery .... but I see that in your subjective opinion it was a fix .... so that kind of rules you out from making an objective opinion just like those who claim Clottey lost. Yet these same critics of Arum are the same ones who don't want to remember that Floyd was also part of Arum when many said he lost to Castillo and was not DQed when his corner rushed Judah in the middle of the round.

Read this thread .... all the excuses in the book because they want to protect their Floyd at all costs.

My point is if you guys really believe that Arum's part of it then why are you ready to say it for Manny (can't lose under Arum) but can't say it for Floyd?

Wrong, these Manny can't lose under arum threads were out when Marquez got robbed in november.