Do you give floyd full credit for beating ortiz

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  • JmH Reborn
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    #51
    Originally posted by AlwaysOnTop
    What Ortiz did was blatantly dirtier...

    He was trying to wound Mayweather....he could have done extensive damage...which was his ADMITTED intent..

    Floyd didn't make the fight dirty........Victor did...

    Ortiz got exactly what he deserved...even fighters that don't like Floyd sided with him..

    When a guy is trying to hurt you..all bets are off...sportsmanship is out the window..
    I didn't blame Floyd, I just said that I hate fights that end in such blatantly dirty manner.

    They both are dirty at that point, Floyd is just better at that type of stuff. Ortiz should have headbutted, taken his point deduction like a man, tap a glove and go back to swinging. I'm not begrudging him [Floyd].

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    • master_rose
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      #52
      Originally posted by chaos
      Ortiz was having his best round and was improving when it was stopped. You assume Floyd was beginning to adjust but don't give Ortiz the same consideration.
      Ortiz was having his best round, which is why he headbutted his opponent and busted his mouth open; actually tried to break his nose (Ortiz's words, hence subpoenaed by the athletic commission). Within the Queensbury rules, Floyd responded with a 2-punch combination which Ortiz failed to recover from...

      You don't know ***** about boxing.

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      • Daddy T
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        #53
        Originally posted by Ugh!
        as in the same credit you would give him if he were to beat him without a suckerpunch?(it'd more than likely go to a decision)


        i dont know what to think
        of course not but the person i lost the respect for was ortiz not floyd, floyd simply took advantage of ortiz turning full ******

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        • hugh grant
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          #54
          I dont think people are against what floyd did 100%, its just that people were shortchangd as fight and unfortunate Floyd did that.

          But people dont really count it as a win for Floyd. Floyd was winning the fight before it was ended prematurely, similar to accidental headbutt and the fight has to be stopped.
          Floyd was ahead at the time of the stoppage and a rematch is needed. But then again Floyd dont do rematches.

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          • catalinul
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            #55
            Offcourse.

            Ortiz was gonna brake mentally one way or another.

            It wa another.

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            • Boxingtech718v2
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              #56
              The same people throwing salt on Floyd are the ones who were cheering when Ortiz flying headbutted Floyd.

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              • Canelo Phresh
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                #57
                yeahit was all legal except for ortiz headbutt.

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                • NEELZ
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                  #58
                  Floyd missed a lot of punches. Ortiz won the second. That was a competitive fight but Mayweather was winning. Ortiz tagged Mayweather to the body harder that he had been hit for a long time. It might have taken a toll as the fight went along. Ortiz wasn't even slightly hurt until he dropped his guard and Floyd punched him flush.

                  A KO like that does not get my respect.

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                  • littlemac
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Boxingtech718v2
                    The same people throwing salt on Floyd are the ones who were cheering when Ortiz flying headbutted Floyd.
                    Absolutely true.....Now its all sour g****s...

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                    • boliodogs
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                      #60
                      Yes I give him full credit for the win. It's not his fault Ortiz is an unstable fool. The ref made the signal to fight and he fought. Yes it would have been better if he waited for Ortiz to realize there was a fight going on and then beat him. It is not his job to babysit Ortiz.I think he would have scored a KO later anyway. He clearly showed he has enough power in his staight right to put Ortiz down for the count. Nice job Floyd.

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