Do you give floyd full credit for beating ortiz

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  • Chaos
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    #11
    Originally posted by DLT
    That round was all hype. Floyd was still winning the round. The only thing he got was a couple of punches on the ropes which were mostly blocked. Floyd went to the ropes on his own anyways like he always does. People act like Ortiz was just bullying him or something. If youre unbiased then Floyd was winning that round. There is a reason why Ortiz landed the butt in the 1st place. He was frustrated because he couldnt land on him
    Or maybe he was annoyed with the Floyd elbows that weren't being called. Also, I never said Ortiz was winning the round, I said he was improving, so it's inaccurate to say Floyd was the only one adjusting and getting better. If Floyd was so sure of victory he wouldn't have needed the cheapshot and elbows.

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #12
      About as much credit as one deserves for sucker-punching a guy that had already been stopped by Marcos Maidana and outboxed by Lamont Peterson.

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      • turbotime
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        #13
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        About as much credit as one deserves for sucker-punching a guy that had already been stopped by Marcos Maidana and outboxed by Lamont Peterson.
        Ortiz won the Peterson fight.

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        • turbotime
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          #14
          Yes of course Floyd gets full credit. It's a fight and Floyd is as crafty as they come.

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          • -jose-
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            #15
            Don't give him credit for the way he won the fight
            but I have to blame Ortiz for dropping his guard
            seriously you don't have to be a boxer to know that
            you learn that in your first school yard fight...

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            • Larry the boss
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              #16
              he knocked his ass out.move on

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              • Dirk Diggler UK
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                #17
                Originally posted by turbotime
                Ortiz won the Peterson fight.
                Debatable. He still got pretty soundly outboxed in the later rounds

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                • Hougigo
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                  #18
                  Half and half, he was obviously beating him but that KO was BS

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                  • 4Corners
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    Debatable. He still got pretty soundly outboxed in the later rounds
                    It was close, could have gone either way. I'd give the edge to Ortiz, and I thought Khan beat Peterson as well.

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                    • -Spinal-
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                      #20
                      I thought he beat Peterson.

                      Yes I do. He won the fight via retaliation, legally. Ortiz was the one with the blatant illegal headbutt, a very dangerous move by Ortiz that could have badly cut Mayweather if he was a less elusive fighter and let Ortiz catch him in the eyes/eyebrows where cuts mostly happen. Little accidental headbutts are known to create huge gashes that hinder a fighter for the rest of their careers by making that part of their skin weak to punches and opening up easily.

                      Mayweather was the one retaliating, he kept cool and instead of doing something ****** right after the headbutt, he waited till Cortez signaled to continue to get his pay back and win in a dirty fight that Ortiz started. It was a pretty clean fight before that, with Floyd landing clean flush right hands and using his handspeed while staying away from danger for the most part. It's very sad that Ortiz started something like that, but he paid for it in the end.

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