Are Mayweather and Cotto the Best That Eachother Have Faced?

[AllEyesOpen]

Outside of Pacquiao, Mayweather would be the best fighter Cotto has faced. The Problem I have with Cotto is he's entirely to easy to hit, even when he was outboxing Marg and Marg had only 1 eye, he was getting to Cotto and touching him up. Cotto might be one of the best fighters Mayweather has fought at 147-154, and although I expect him to do very well early on, I see him getting broken down the stretch.

& As Good as Cotto may have looked in recent fights, Mayweather is far from being Marg or Mayo, he will not be chasing Cotto around the ring waiting to be punched.

[New England]

He was bigger than Marquez, sure.

That's not new, as you know this has happened a lot.

I don't think he's a good deal larger than Pacquaio at all. I just don't see it.

He's bigger, but he's not a good deal larger.

And I don't think he stopped throwing punches because the size difference.

Thing's like "He's a counterpuncher" I don't understand why they come into this argument. He's a counterpuncher. And?

And going by your comments I assume you don't consider Pacquaio a legit fight for Mayweather because of the size difference? Or?

a legit fight for mayweather?
sure. the world wants it. i dont think manny has an iceberg's chance in hell, mostly because of the size. (and of course the style. counterpunching and a step to the side is like kryptonite to manny pacquiao)

if i had to put a number on it i'd say floyd should be favored at least 6 to 1. maybe ten. i'd still buy it. still a prizefight.

manny has proven to be better than all of the WW they have put in front of him. he's hurt these guys. taken their shots. dealt with the size. i cant see a more worthy opponent considering that marquez doesnt deserve a rematch with floyd, even though he beat manny last time out.


that being said:
i still dont think that makes him a WW, or more appropriately for our discussion; a proper guage for a fighter's ability to fight against a WW (in the marquez case.)

i think he's a damn good blown up jr WW or lw, fighting at 147 for that paper.

which is fine. we can agree to disagree. wont be the first. wont be the last.
still good buds.

and on the counterpunching part:

counterpunching with a guy who is that much bigger and longer than you are is next to impossible, especially for a LW on ancient legs

you have to either get inside or move in and out. you're too far away to counter when your opponent is throwing, especially his jab.

he throws and you're just too far away to counter. you've got to close the distance (going in and out works too,) which isn't what marquez is looking to do.

[New England]

Honestly, this is what I don't get. Ppl claim Marquez was too small for mayweather but and then they call for mayweather to fight pacquiao even though they claim that pac is the same size as marquez . What sense does that make? Pac is obviously not better than Marquez, they are the same size and his biggest weakness is counter punchers. Who is the best counter puncher in the world? So are we supposed to then believe that not only would pac overcome a size advantage, weight advantage. But he is also gonna overcome a style advantage to make a competitive fight? I don't think ppl fully understand what they imply with their comments.

To me its simple, u can't have it both ways.

i'm only calling for manny to fight floyd for closure

and to shut up all my friends who ask me about the fight every time they see me because they know about my involvement with boxing


i dont think that manny and floyd are the same size
or that manny and marquez are the same size
manny's bigger than marquez

smaller than floyd. that's really not a jump to make at all, lol.

that's math, baby!

a>b

b>c

a > c

[New England]

Floyd fans using triangle theories when it suits them as usual. Pac is the same size as JMM just about, but Pac has proven he can beat bigger men, which JMM hasnt quite yet done. Floyd got JMM in JMMs first venture up at that weight, but as Floyd never gives rematches whos to say JMM wouldnt dominate Floyd in the next fight?

JMM has done his homework with Pac and knows Pac extremely well, the cant be said for Floyd. How do we know Floyd knows how to fight Pac as good as JMM can?

Stop generalising with your comments, i dont think you fully understand what you are implying.

me
i'm the guy to say it

no way in hell marquez puts a mark on floyd mayweather. did you watch that fight?

[-jose-]

I bet they are training like if they are both facing the best...

[twosweethooks]

The fact that he beat Pac at WW just proves that the Mayweather win was more dominant than people say.

JMM superb boxing skills looked like nothing vs Mayweather this dude landed like 12% of his punches and threw 100 more. H elanded maybe no more than 5 clean/hard punches. In the 3 fights vs Pac he landed combos at will

Nothing will be settled until Mayweather and Pac get in the ring.

JMM was not "ready" to fight Jr at 144 plus was cheated on by JR.

JMM was trained and ready to fight an unfocused Pac.

Too many variables are going on like :

Jr vs Hatton, Jr Ran from Hatton

Pac vs Hatton, Hatton was destroyed in 2

Jr vs ODH,,,,poor Oscar couldn't throw one more jab , while JR did NOTHING and won by one point

Pac vs ODH forget the weight drain, that was ODH's fault if in fact it was true, he said he was not, but Pac Destroyed ODH, made him QUIT.

Corrales was in deep trouble, totally unfocused

Any fighter is in deep trouble that is unfocused , so we don't know what would have happened if Corrales was in shape and focused.

The only thing that will solve the mystery is get Jr in the ring with Pac , NOW !!

Cotto is washed up, been beat to death, especially by Pac.

Cotto was hanging tight with Margo until rounds 10 and 11.

Lets see if Jr can mess up Cottos face like Pac did.

[nicamarvin]

Cotto will never face a better opponent than Manny Pacquiao!!

another deluded *******..

Floyd>>Marquez>Pac

hey I´ve heard pac is still wanting a 4th fight just to show how good his shakes are getting..

[hugh grant]

how about u read my comment and fully understand it before u write a reply to it genius. take some time, work it out. i understand, we cant all be geniuses.

No, how about you think about what you say with your head, rather than your heart, that way i wouldnt have to clean up your mess.

Stop using triangle theories when it suits you. Bottom line, JMM gets the credit for making hard fights for Pac, and people should stop trying to give Floyd credit off of other peoples backs. Floyd trying to steal credit off of JMMs good work? JMM got in the ring with Pac 3 times, yet Floyd wont do it once? How do you figure that out?

[hugh grant]

me
i'm the guy to say it

no way in hell marquez puts a mark on floyd mayweather. did you watch that fight?

Yes we give credit for FLoyd for beating the bloated never fought at 140, let alone 147 JMM. But then we give credit for JMM for making life hard for Pac.......floyd dont get credit for not getting in the ring with Pac, and trying to steal credit off of other boxers back, ie off of JMMs back.

Just cos JMM was competive with Pac, dont mean Floyd would do as well as JMM.

[Deeznuts]

Oscar was the best opponent on Floyd's resume