If Floyd took every fight serious with no trash talk, I would respect him more

[-Spinal-]

So.....Ortiz was garbage??? He was coming off 5 straight wins and a draw he should have own over Peterson. And by beating Berto, he'd automatically become the next best WW after Pacquiao. He's young and his prime, and someone people said Floyd wouldn't fight after he beat Berto down. That was a good fight. If Ortiz was a bad fight for Floyd, than Lamont Peterson was a terrible fight for Khan last December, right??? The only thing he'd done since losing to Bradley in a one sided fight was draw with Ortiz (which he should have lost) and beat Victor Cayo.....

And if Cotto was a good fight for Manny in 2009, given his fights prior, than he's a good fight for Mayweather now. He's basically the same guy, only at 154 instead of 145 in that fight.

And well I'll just take the fact that you basically admit to being a teenager and your refusal to admit when you started watching the sport, as reason to not really care about what you say. Like I said before, it just reenforces what people think of you. And nothing about anything you do troubles me....only the fact that you're the worlds future, that's troubling if there ever was such a thing.

Have a good, mate.....

No he's not. He wasn't a good win for Pacquiao, and it's even a worse fight for Floyd 3 years later.

[4Corners]

Pac-Hatton

Pac vs Hatton was actually a huge fight, it was an important fight. And it was seen as a competitive fight going in, it was 50-50. The fight was for The Ring and Lineal titles at 140, a weight class that Hatton was undefeated in at the time.

Mayweather-Cotto is no where close to being seen as competitive as Hatton-Pac. Cotto is the clear underdog, unlike Hatton was for the Pacquiao fight.

I don't think Pac-Hatton was 50/50 going in. And by the time 2009 rolled around, was Hatton what he use to be??? No. Timothy Bradley and Devon Alexander could have beaten Hatton in 2009. I'm not dis*****g that the fight was for the RING title there, but I think Bradley was the man at 140 by 2009 rolled around. Mayweather-Baldomir was the RING title in 2006, but Baldo was not the man to beat at 147. It was an okay fight for Floyd, but nothing great.

Hatton in 2009 and Cotto right now are more or less in the same spot in their careers. Not prime, but still good.

[FeFist]

Mayweather vs Cotto should not be mentioned in the same sentence as Pacquiao-Bradley. Pacquiao vs Bradley is an actual good fight, it's a competitive fight going in.

If Cotto had two wins over top 10 JMW's, instead of two shot to pieces bums who are not part of the top 10, then this fight would have been more meaningful. Right now it means nothing, it's Mayweather vs a glorified C class fighter for a lot of money. Pac vs Bradley is actually a good fight.

Out of curiosity what significant wins does Bradley have at Welterweight?

[4Corners]

Out of curiosity what significant wins does Bradley have at Welterweight?

Abregu, that's it. Pac-Bradley is still the same level of fight as Mayweather-Hatton.

It seems like people would have preferred Mayweather-Canelo rather than Mayweather-Cotto.....I know I wouldn't have. I guess that's just me though.

[-Spinal-]

hatton was still a sizable dog in that fight. most of the media people were picking manny to knock him out. i picked manny to stop him in the first half of the fight, for whatever that is worth.

cotto and pacquiao was closer according to the oddsmakers.

hatton was still considered a force at that stage, and seen as a real threat at 140, agreed.

Well from my time in Boxingscene around that fight[i'm not really a 2009 poster], that fight was seen pretty even among the hardcore boxing fans. Sure Hatton was not seen as the same as when he was gonna fight Mayweather, he wasn't undefeated anymore, and he had looked questionable against Lazcano, and then stopped Malignaggi. But still, going up against The Ring/Lineal champion of a weight class, who has never been beaten in that weight class, and has only been beaten once overall, is a huge win. 4cornerskid says it was not a huge win.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

So.....Ortiz was garbage??? He was coming off 5 straight wins and a draw he should have own over Peterson. And by beating Berto, he'd automatically become the next best WW after Pacquiao. He's young and his prime, and someone people said Floyd wouldn't fight after he beat Berto down. That was a good fight. If Ortiz was a bad fight for Floyd, than Lamont Peterson was a terrible fight for Khan last December, right??? The only thing he'd done since losing to Bradley in a one sided fight was draw with Ortiz (which he should have lost) and beat Victor Cayo.....

And if Cotto was a good fight for Manny in 2009, given his fights prior, than he's a good fight for Mayweather now. He's basically the same guy, only at 154 instead of 145 in that fight.

And well I'll just take the fact that you basically admit to being a teenager and your refusal to admit when you started watching the sport, as reason to not really care about what you say. Like I said before, it just reenforces what people think of you. And nothing about anything you do troubles me....only the fact that you're the worlds future, that's troubling if there ever was such a thing.

Have a good, mate.....

5 straight wins against who? His only worthwhile win was against Berto and Berto is even more rubbish! He quit against a fighter as limited as Maidana and he's supposed to be seen as a challenge to Mayweather? He got ouboxed for half of the fight against Lamont yet he's supposed to be a legit opponent for Mayweather? Ok then...lol

And enough with worrying about how old I am, 4corners KID...lol. You're trying too hard.

[-Spinal-]

Out of curiosity what significant wins does Bradley have at Welterweight?

Do you consider Floyd's win over Ricky Hatton a great win?

[letsgobrady]

i dont mind the trash talking, infact its good in the sense that it gets people interested. just see chisora vs klitschko for how well being an arsehole works!

the thing i dont like tho, is claiming your the best of all time, yet you are not prepared to prove your the best in our time, or even prepared to prove you are the best in your own fcuking division.

mayweather would stand a good chance to beat everybody put infront of him through middleweight in my opinion with the skills he has, he just isnt willing to fight the best.

like sugar ray leonard was saying on ringside tonight, you need those other great fighters to make yourself.

floyd has beat the top fighter in every division he has been in except 140 so i don't understand what the haters are takiing about

[-Spinal-]

I don't think Pac-Hatton was 50/50 going in. And by the time 2009 rolled around, was Hatton what he use to be??? No. Timothy Bradley and Devon Alexander could have beaten Hatton in 2009. I'm not dis*****g that the fight was for the RING title there, but I think Bradley was the man at 140 by 2009 rolled around. Mayweather-Baldomir was the RING title in 2006, but Baldo was not the man to beat at 147. It was an okay fight for Floyd, but nothing great.

Hatton in 2009 and Cotto right now are more or less in the same spot in their careers. Not prime, but still good.

What are you talking about? Hatton was both The Ring and the Lineal champion at 140, so he was THE man to beat, he was the champion at 140.

Bradley?


You do realize we're talking about May 2009 right? When Bradley's best win was Kendoll Holt. You realize this?

[Roja's480]

Thats all this fight is. "A big event".

LOL@ this clown thinking he's hardcore for watching a Mayweather fight

Its not actually good fight.

I'll watch it on a stream probably

why, u said this fight is no good whats the point of watching it