Real talk......

[Roman Moreno]

Lets put Molina tonight against a Floyd Jr or even against a Martinez. Lets keep the same ref and lets keep manner and style that Molina fought. Would he have had the success against Floyd Jr or Martinez that he did with Kirkland. Or would the former would actually know what to do under those circumstances?

[DoktorSleepless]

Molina might be the most under appreciated fighter in the game right now.

My goodness

I think Molina showed he's a top 3 fighter in the 154 division with this performance, but I still think this fight proved more about Kirkland than it did about Molina. Looking at ring's TOP 10, I favor almost everyone against Kirkland after this performance. I have more faith in Angulo than Kirkland at this moment.

This was the first time I ever seen Molina hold this much despite going up against bigger pressure guys like Chavez and Alvarado before. I was very surprised. Hopefully next time they bring a better ref.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Can this be turned into a NC if disputed or immediate rematch?

[Roman Moreno]

he should've got warned, perhaps even a point deducted but he was winning that fight. all these kirkland fans thinking he would've taken molina out in those last rounds are all opinionated. only way we would've known is if would've continue. bad ending for both sides tbh. i hope the rematch happens. i could see alvarez or k9 trying to get a piece of kirkland now though.

I think Kirkland has a better chance against Canelo and K9 than he does against Molina.

Molina been in there tough against good fighters. And, no one has had an easy time with him. And, he has been hosed in at least 4 fights so far.

[Walt Liquor]

Didnt read all that but molinawas sPanking mandingo amd the stoppage was total bullshi t. WOrst stoppage i seen in forever.

[4Corners]

Lets put Molina tonight against a Floyd Jr or even against a Martinez. Lets keep the same ref and lets keep manner and style that Molina fought. Would he have had the success against Floyd Jr or Martinez that he did with Kirkland. Or would the former would actually know what to do under those circumstances?

No one is dis*****g that, at least I'm not. I said Kirkland-Sergio was a mismatch and a style nightmare for Kirkland. He's not on that level.

Molina was winning, and his style of holding-push him back-punch-hold his arm-punch-let go-punch-hold was working for 7 of those 10 rounds. Kirkland didn't have the right gameplan for it, aside from 3 rounds in that fight. He should have just pushed him off when he tried to do that and kicked his a$$, like he did in the 10th. Hopefully they rematch. Anne f**ked up big time too. She should have told Kirkland to start doing that he did in the 10th about 5-6 rounds earlier. He built momentum in the 4th and 5th, I thought Kirkland won those rounds, but then just stopped. Oh well.

I hope they rematch. I just think boxing is the ultimate PRISONER OF THE MOMENT SPORT. Kirkland beats Angulo's a$$ and is a threat to Sergio all of a sudden. He struggles with Molina for the majority of the fight and he's a bum, and beating Angulo was nothing special. It's ridiculous.

[Roman Moreno]

I think Molina showed he's a top 3 fighter in the 154 division with this performance, but I still think this fight proved more about Kirkland than it did about Molina. Looking at ring's TOP 10, I favor almost everyone against Kirkland now. I have more faith in Angulo than Kirkland at the moment.

This was the first time I ever seen Molina hold this much despite going up against bigger pressure guys like Chavez and Alvarado before. I was very surprised. Hopefully next time they bring a better ref.

LOL @ having more faith in Angulo SMH.

Anyways, I completely disagree. This fight proved more about Molina than Kirkland. Molina to me is the #1 MW, at worse #3. Kirkland is top 3 IMO, at worse #5.

Kirkland has beaten good fighters. Molina is just very good. I'm not going to hold nothing against Kirkland because of Molina was able to out hustle him. Molina out hustled Lara IMO. who everyone is high on as well.

I would still favor Kirkland against the lots of JMW. Same thing for Molina...Besides Molina, what other JMW has a better resume at 154 than Kirkland? I can't think of one.

Molina played spoiler and make Kirkland look bad cuz' of the style and manner he fought. Kirkland couldn't just handle it. But, Kirkland style is all wrong for Cotto. I don't even want to talk about Canelo. Lara could beat Kirkland but arguably deserve to lose against Molina. Who else? Vanes? Trout is a dark horse. K9 really? P-Will is a question mark still.

[Roman Moreno]

No one is dis*****g that, at least I'm not. I said Kirkland-Sergio was a mismatch and a style nightmare for Kirkland. He's not on that level.

Molina was winning, and his style of holding-push him back-punch-hold his arm-punch-let go-punch-hold was working for 7 of those 10 rounds. Kirkland didn't have the right gameplan for it, aside from 3 rounds in that fight. He should have just pushed him off when he tried to do that and kicked his a$$, like he did in the 10th. Hopefully they rematch. Anne f**ked up big time too. She should have told Kirkland to start doing that he did in the 10th about 5-6 rounds earlier. He built momentum in the 4th and 5th, I thought Kirkland won those rounds, but then just stopped. Oh well.

I hope they rematch. I just think boxing is the ultimate PRISONER OF THE MOMENT SPORT. Kirkland beats Angulo's a$$ and is a threat to Sergio all of a sudden. He struggles with Molina for the majority of the fight and he's a bum, and beating Angulo was nothing special. It's ridiculous.

I think if Kirkland could he would have. Kirkland is still a beast. Molina again is just very under appreciated.

For example I think it was yesterday in a thread. Someone said that Lara would beat Molina in a rematch. Nothing against you. But, you did the same thing saying that Kirkland would or could KO him in a rematch. Thing is Molina who has fought good fighters has gave everyone hell. No one has been able to have an easy time with him. And, there is always some excuse on why he looks good.

A rematch would be a good thing. But, I hope that Canelo and Golden Boy are fooled and would make that fight. Give Molina, the Lara rematch. Let him get by that one. And, then we can have Kirkland-Molina II for the WBC.

Honestly, I don't know 2 other JMW's who have fought tougher set of opponents at 154 right now than Kirkland and Molina.

[turbotime]

Lets put Molina tonight against a Floyd Jr or even against a Martinez. Lets keep the same ref and lets keep manner and style that Molina fought. Would he have had the success against Floyd Jr or Martinez that he did with Kirkland. Or would the former would actually know what to do under those circumstances?

Molina doesn't get by Cotto let alone Floyd or Sergio IMO

[_original_]

I really wanted to see those last two rounds, man I think Kirkland is as pissed as Molina at what happened. Blame the ****** cornerman in Molina's camp for that though. Most knew Molina would school Kirkland in the early rounds, but the real fight was in the last rounds to see if Kirkland could wear him down. I also think Kirkland came in too tense with very little work rate (not to mention a crap gameplan), Anne Wolfe was telling him to come in with a jab, I was like WTF this is Kirkland we're talking about! Molina is a great boxer, I just feel that he should have been penalized, at least warned, for his excessive clinching.


Another thing, I think it's pretty clear Cotto warrants that number ranking at 154, I can't honestly see these beating him IMO.