Real talk......

[4Corners]

Carlos Molina was winning the fight confortably at that point, I had him up 88-83 going into the 10th round. I only saw Kirkland win 1-2 rounds at that point. James had the complete wrong fight in mind going in. Let your f**king hands go, and back his a$$ up. What Kirkland did in the 10th, which was effective pressure throwing tons of punches, and than when Molina tried to hold for the 1,000th time, throw him off of you and kick his a$$. I don't know what Kirkland was thinking for about 85% of that fight.

On the flip side, how in the world did Molina not get warned at all for holding??? He made Andre Ward and Devon Alexander, guys who are s**t on for holding, look like they never ever do it. I don't get how someone can completely grab ahold of the other guys right arm for like 5-10 seconds more than several times a round, let go and push him back, hit him and than hold again for like 5 seconds when the other guy starts to open up. I am the first guy to say holding is a part of boxing, especially when in trouble, but when it's happening literally around or over 20 times per round, it's beyond excessive. Kirkland had him really hurt in the 10th and was putting it on him, and Molina literally just held the entire time, and at one point in the round, just pushed Kirkland on the ropes while holding and was trying to hold on to the ropes. It was beyond excessive, and beyond normal holding that goes on in every fight.

Like I said, Carlos Molina was winning, I hope they rematch. I still have no doubt Kirkland can knock him out or beat him. He just has to full Mandingo on him and let his f**king hands go. And when he tries to do that hold your arm and push you back, let go and hit you, than hold again, do what you did in the 10th round there. Push his a$$ off you kick his a$$.

Bottom line, Molina was winning clearly and the ref's call was bogus to end the fight, as was him not warning Molina for some of the most excessive holding I've seen in a long time.

[-DSG-]

Carlos Molina was winning the fight confortably at that point, I had him up 88-83 going into the 10th round. I only saw Kirkland win 1-2 rounds at that point. James had the complete wrong fight in mind going in. Let your f**king hands go, and back his a$$ up. What Kirkland did in the 10th, which was effective pressure throwing tons of punches, and than when Molina tried to hold for the 1,000th time, throw him off of you and kick his a$$. I don't know what Kirkland was thinking for about 85% of that fight.

On the flip side, how in the world did Molina not get warned at all for holding??? He made Andre Ward and Devon Alexander, guys who are s**t on for holding, look like they never ever do it. I don't get how someone can completely grab ahold of the other guys right arm for like 5-10 seconds more than several times a round, let go and push him back, hit him and than hold again for like 5 seconds when the other guy starts to open up. I am the first guy to say holding is a part of boxing, especially when in trouble, but when it's happening literally around or over 20 times per round, it's beyond excessive. Kirkland had him really hurt in the 10th and was putting it on him, and Molina literally just held the entire time, and at one point in the round, just pushed Kirkland on the ropes while holding and was trying to hold on to the ropes. It was beyond excessive, and beyond normal holding that goes on in every fight.

Like I said, Carlos Molina was winning, I hope they rematch. I still have no doubt Kirkland can knock him out or beat him. He just has to full Mandingo on him and let his f**king hands go. And when he tries to do that hold your arm and push you back, let go and hit you, than hold again, do what you did in the 10th round there. Push his a$$ off you kick his a$$.

Bottom line, Molina was winning clearly and the ref's call was bogus to end the fight, as was him not warning Molina for some of the most excessive holding I've seen in a long time.

i agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Roman Moreno]

Molina might be the most under appreciated fighter in the game right now.

My goodness

[ИATAS]

kirkland may have pulled off the KO. that smothering/holding style is something kirkland doesn't really know how to fight against, he'll need to work on that. I also think he came out too flat. Maybe he was dry or that was strategy. But he should have been more aggressive a lot sooner.

[4Corners]

Molina might be the most under appreciated fighter in the game right now.

My goodness

I gave him his due. He was winning. I was probably the only Kirkland fan on here saying Mollina was a real threat. And he was winning the fight. The only rounds i saw Kirkland win were 4, 5, and 10 (wasn't counted obviously).

Kirkland didn't let his hands go enough and let Molina get away with that s**t too much. He should have done what he did in the 10th, would have been a different fight. Should of, would of, could of, hopefully they rematch. i still have faith in Kirkland. I find it funny how all these "boxing fans" are so inconsistent and non-objective when it comes to things. Not you Jro but others on here for sure.

The holding was far more excessive than normal holding during a fight. How long did Molina hold during rounds 2-9, let alone round 10??? He would hold Kirkland, push him back and hold his arm, hit him while holding, let go and hit him again, and than hold again.....no warning at all or anything??? The ref was f**ked up with stoppage and the holding, no other way to look at it. I hope they rematch.

[turbotime]

Real talk. More points need to be taking for spoiling/holding

[piojo del norte]

The bell did ring already that is why I do not understand the disqualification. I wonder if they can overturn this.

I saw Molina give a kiss to Ann Wolfe I would have also kissed that sexy sexy lady LMAO!!!!!!!

[BoxingGenius27]

Carlos Molina was winning the fight confortably at that point, I had him up 88-83 going into the 10th round. I only saw Kirkland win 1-2 rounds at that point. James had the complete wrong fight in mind going in. Let your f**king hands go, and back his a$$ up. What Kirkland did in the 10th, which was effective pressure throwing tons of punches, and than when Molina tried to hold for the 1,000th time, throw him off of you and kick his a$$. I don't know what Kirkland was thinking for about 85% of that fight.

On the flip side, how in the world did Molina not get warned at all for holding??? He made Andre Ward and Devon Alexander, guys who are s**t on for holding, look like they never ever do it. I don't get how someone can completely grab ahold of the other guys right arm for like 5-10 seconds more than several times a round, let go and push him back, hit him and than hold again for like 5 seconds when the other guy starts to open up. I am the first guy to say holding is a part of boxing, especially when in trouble, but when it's happening literally around or over 20 times per round, it's beyond excessive. Kirkland had him really hurt in the 10th and was putting it on him, and Molina literally just held the entire time, and at one point in the round, just pushed Kirkland on the ropes while holding and was trying to hold on to the ropes. It was beyond excessive, and beyond normal holding that goes on in every fight.

Like I said, Carlos Molina was winning, I hope they rematch. I still have no doubt Kirkland can knock him out or beat him. He just has to full Mandingo on him and let his f**king hands go. And when he tries to do that hold your arm and push you back, let go and hit you, than hold again, do what you did in the 10th round there. Push his a$$ off you kick his a$$.

Bottom line, Molina was winning clearly and the ref's call was bogus to end the fight, as was him not warning Molina for some of the most excessive holding I've seen in a long time.

Honestly, if Molina wasn't holding, do you think he would've been winning by those scores?

I can't take into consideration that Molina was winning the fight because he held for 27 minutes of the 30 minute fight. I can't respect that.

He was damn good at landing punches out of the clinch, but that's not boxing. What the *** is that?

I have zero respect for Molina. Zero.

[4Corners]

Honestly, if Molina wasn't holding, do you think he would've been winning by those scores?

I can't take into consideration that Molina was winning the fight because he held for 27 minutes of the 30 minute fight. I can't respect that.

He was damn good at landing punches out of the clinch, but that's not boxing. What the *** is that?

I have zero respect for Molina. Zero.

Molina was winning. It's not his fault the ref didn't warn him at all. The irony is that he got screwed by the DQ. Hopefully they rematch.

I still have faith in Kirkland. If he does what he did in the 4th, 5th, and 10th, he can still beat Molina convincingly. He just needs to let his f**king hands go, and when Molina tries to hold-punch-let go-punch-hold s**t, do what he did in the 10th. Push him off you and kick his f**king a$$. He was doing that in the 10th.

You should watch the fight again and count how long Molina held for each round, let alone the 10th. His hold and punch style was very effective because Kirkland wasn't throwing enough for 7 of those 10 rounds.

I hope they rematch.

[chiguy91]

he should've got warned, perhaps even a point deducted but he was winning that fight. all these kirkland fans thinking he would've taken molina out in those last rounds are all opinionated. only way we would've known is if would've continue. bad ending for both sides tbh. i hope the rematch happens. i could see alvarez or k9 trying to get a piece of kirkland now though.